How much research is fraudulent?

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    You didn’t read my link did you?
     
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    Another TWONK who is loud mouthing twaddle

    https://www.desmog.com/bernie-lewin/
     
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    I will go with scientific American ANY day of the week
    How about the American Journal Of Physics?
    https://pubs.aip.org/aapt/ajp/artic...settled-What-Climate-Science-Tells-Us-What-It
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    Yes, of course they do.
    No, they were only grossly -- and deliberately -- misinterpreted by the exculpatory tribunals convened to whitewash the wrongdoing.
     
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    Ahhh! But being on the internet does not automatically make it untrue. This is where the skill of being able to critique and analyse information is invaluable

    Critical analysis also assists in preventing world view bias

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    A fear of validating points shows the person is afraid to disrupt their world view
     
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    Your link concerned events 28 years after the events under discussion and was, therefore, irrelevant.
     
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    That's because he's a historian. The accounts given by major climate science players are the heart of the book. You are just denying.
     
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    This is just another (unfortunately unsurprising) attempted attack on a person to avoid discussion of the substance.
     
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    Bull. I'm not going to read his book. And, the issue is what the vast majority of scientists\ know today.

    You can go back to Kyoto and find mistakes. The whole direction of assembling an approach to climate change is been fraught, especially as America has so often worked against any international cooperation.
     
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    .I've tried validation with you - a waste of time.
     
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    The post was not addressed to you. Lewin noted:

    "Many of those who participated in the events here described gave generously of their time in responding to my enquiries, they include Ben Santer, Tim Barnett, Tom Wigley, John Houghton, Fred Singer, John Mitchell, Pat Michaels . . . and many more."
     
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    Anything that may or may not have happened 28 years ago is irrelevant
     
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    Wasting my time with twaddle that boils down to
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    Get back to me when you prove that it does not fit this criteria
     
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    Not if we're discussing history. You continue to deflect from the question at hand.
     
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    And you are ignoring what has happened in the intervening 28 years
     
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    That's irrelevant to the question. Dates matter.
     
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    Get back to me when you realize this stupid graphic actually resembles your process.
     
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    Questions to ask yourself:

    Is there an more CO2 in the atmosphere now than 100 years ago?
    Does CO2 come from the burning of fossil fuels?
    Is C02 a greenhouse gas?
    Is the average temperature of the Earth rising?
    Does the rising temperature of Earth correlate with the rise of CO2?

    If you can answer every question yes, then anthropogenic climate change is real.
     
  25. Pieces of Malarkey

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    Well, I can answer one of them "no" pretty easily. Correlation does not equal causation.

    https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
     

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