How the Brooklyn DA Protects Orthodox Child Molesters

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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the Noahide laws were given to mankind, not just to the Jews.

    even many Christians recognize this.

    its even in the New Testament.
     
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    They are Jewish law from the talmud.

    Source in the new testament if you would.
     
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    The Council of Jerusalem or Apostolic Council was held in Jerusalem around 50 AD. It is unique among the ancient pre-ecumenical councils in that it is considered by Catholics and Orthodox to be a prototype and forerunner of the later ecumenical councils and a key part of Christian ethics.

    The council decided that Gentile converts to Christianity were not obligated to keep most of the Law of Moses, including the rules concerning circumcision of males.

    The Council did, however, retain the prohibitions on eating blood, meat containing blood, and meat of animals not properly slain, and on fornication and idolatry, sometimes referred to as the Apostolic Decree or Jerusalem Quadrilateral.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Jerusalem
     
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    Wikipedia IS NOT THE NEW TESTAMENT.

    Just unreal.

    You made that up. Nothing, in the new testament even mentions these Jewish laws.

    Now back to the OP, the article states:

    "Rabbis and Orthodox officials frequently ignore, minimize, or cover up known Orthodox child sex predators."

    This makes sense, right? Of course they would cover this up.

    But the article continues about how the Brooklyn DA’s office and even the NYPD cover this up as well. There is no way they are all Jewish... but if they are these noahides, then this would make sense too.

    I am at a loss, really, but what else explains this?
     
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    I take it you have never read the New Testament.

    Acts, Chapter 15:

    The Council at Jerusalem
    15 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

    5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

    6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

    12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Simon[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

    16 “‘After this I will return
    and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
    Its ruins I will rebuild,
    and I will restore it,
    17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
    even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
    says the Lord, who does these things’—
    18 things known from long ago.[c]
    19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

    The Council’s Letter to Gentile Believers
    22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

    The apostles and elders, your brothers,

    To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

    Greetings.

    24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

    Farewell.
     
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    Wrong again.

    And nothing in that post even mentioned Noah. Just stop. These noahide laws are not even in our Torah.

    Now why would the Brooklyn DA’s office and even the NYPD cover this up as well?

    Remember the topic?
     
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    these laws were given to Noah and his children.

    that's why they are called today, the "Noahide" laws.

    those laws in the New Testament clearly come from the Old Testament.
     
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    So they are nowhere in the Torah or the new testament, but they are the reason why the Brooklyn DA’s office and even the NYPD cover this up?

    Remember the topic?
     
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    they are in the Torah and the NT.

    i just told you they were commandments given to Noah and his children.

    ALL Jews know this.

    its not rocket science.
     
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    You tell me a lot of things that you never provide evidence for. You just claimed they were in the new testament which is false. Now you claim they are in the Torah which is also false, unless you can point out where, of course.
     
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    i provided you with the book, chapter, and verse from the New Testament.

    and here's the OT

    The Book of Jubilees, generally dated to the 2nd century BCE,[9] may include an early reference to Noahide Law at verses 7:20–28:

    And in the twenty-eighth jubilee Noah began to enjoin upon his sons' sons the ordinances and commandments, and all the judgments that he knew, and he exhorted his sons to observe righteousness, and to cover the shame of their flesh, and to bless their Creator, and honour father and mother, and love their neighbour, and guard their souls from fornication and uncleanness and all iniquity. For owing to these three things came the flood upon the earth ... For whoso sheddeth man's blood, and whoso eateth the blood of any flesh, shall all be destroyed from the earth

    (Genesis 9):

    Flesh of a living animal: "However, flesh with its life-blood [in it], you shall not eat." (9:4)

    Murder and courts: "Furthermore, I will demand your blood, for [the taking of] your lives, I shall demand it [even] from any wild animal. From man too, I will demand of each person's brother the blood of man. He who spills the blood of man, by man his blood shall be spilt; for in the image of God He made man." (9:5–6)



    The book of Genesis clearly has God commanding all mankind, that they shall not ingest blood, they shall have the death penalty for murder. This is the beginning of the Noahide Laws.

    the New Testament expanded on this by banning cruel slaughter of animals for food, banning idolatry, and banning fornication. which are of course part of the Noahide Laws.
     
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    Why would the Brooklyn DA’s office and even the NYPD cover this up?
     
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    i showed you examples of the Noahide Laws in the Old Testament and New Testament.

    what say you?
     
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    Why would the Brooklyn DA’s office and even the NYPD cover this up?
     
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    How much of the Talmud should be re-written or amended?
     
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    Why would the Brooklyn DA’s office and even the NYPD cover this up?
     
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    what parts of the Talmud should be re-written?
     
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    Any part relating to protecting child molesters. It would be great to get any hateful crap out, but start there.
     
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    there are no parts that actually "protect" child molesters.

    you simply choose to misinterprate the obscure passage you keep quoting, in order to defame and libel Judaism and Jews.
     
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    Keep mischaracterizing, it won't help. There are multiple references, many have been posted and if we want to protect children, something must be done.
     
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    :roflol: :clapping::banana:


    ok ;)
     
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    What needs to be done is to stop antisemitic trolls from stating the Talmud is law when it is not. Can you do that for a little while Sam?
     
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    Well, at least the word is getting out...

    Charges have been leveled at the Brooklyn, Rockland County, Orange County and Ocean County district attorneys for years that they fail to vigorously investigate and prosecute cases of child sexual abuse in the Orthodox community. The claim is that this is due to the intense pressure put upon them by rabbis to cover up these rampant crimes. For years, advocates have suggested that rabbis who control the bloc vote of thousands of their followers demand that district attorneys bury child sexual abuse cases in return for their followers’ votes.

    To my knowledge, neither the Brooklyn, Rockland County, Orange County or Ocean County, NJ district attorneys have ever prosecuted a single rabbi for protecting child molesters or encouraging others to threaten or bribe Orthodox victims not to testify against their abuser. In New Jersey, it is against the law for any adult who has even a suspicion (proof is not needed) that a child has been abused to conceal that information and not report it to child protective services.

    Many Orthodox victims assert that they were threatened to prevent them from testifying against their Orthodox molester. Most victims refuse to testify after receiving these threats. This witness intimidation cannot occur without the tacit, if not explicit, approval of the rabbis that control Orthodox communities. With only two exceptions that I can find, no one involved in witness intimidation has ever been prosecuted by the D.A.’s.

    To this day, I cannot track over a dozen cases of Orthodox child molesters in Brooklyn because Ken Thompson’s office seals these cases. The result of these disgraceful cover-ups by Thompson’s office is that parents, employers and advocates are prevented from discovering the identity of convicted Orthodox child molesters that may be in contact with children.

    It’s not like D.A.’s aren’t aware that Orthodox victim witnesses are coerced and threatened not to testify against their abuser. Both the Brooklyn and Rockland County D.A.’s have publicly acknowledged years ago that Orthodox victims of child sexual abuse are threatened not to testify against their Orthodox abusers, yet the D.A.’s do nothing to stop it.

    The D.A.’s have proven over the course of decades that they will do nothing to protect victims from the onslaught of further abuse that victims regularly receive. Victims and their families are publicly shamed, humiliated and punished by their rabbis...
    http://www.jewishcommunitywatch.org/corrupt-local-district-attorneys-protecting-predators/

    We can all help to stop this Post this everywhere!
     
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    Rabbis are some of the worse abusers
     
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