How the US Gov conspire to poison Americans.

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  1. Jack Napier

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    I know for a fact that there are FAR more Americans for whom this is an issue, than you might think watching their corporate media garbage, and little wonder that there are.

    Can it really get more fundamentally wrong than to conspire to literally poison your food supply?

    For no reason than mass profits for the very few.

    It goes without saying your Gov won't protect you. My word, if anything your own Gov and state are turning on Americans every single day, in every single possible way, so why on earth would a state gone mad care about what the short, medium and long term effects are of poisoining your food? What does it matter to them?

    Many of the symptoms may not manifest for many years, by which time they will be long retired. At best you would get a flimsy apology.

    There is not one single dept of Fed Gov or anything it oversees that I believe to act in the best interests of people and nation.

    Nothing. None of it. It is all corrupt, from the top down. You can sweep this under the carpet and place your trust in the untrustworthy if you wish. But don't your children and grandchildren deserve a better America than that?

    Is there not a grain of selflessness left in you all that stirs you into understanding, like it or not, that the men that represent your state, not only do they not care about you, but they are prepared to turn on you. They send your men to made up wars to die and kill in. They make promises to you and do the opposite. They pledge allegiance to a foreign power, and neglect issues at home. They spy on the privacy of all Americans.

    In the past(and probably now), they have even conducted experiments against their own people, including members of the armed forces.

    I wonder what it would take to make say 80% of Americans to realise that their own state hate them and treat them like cattle?

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    ‘Monsanto Protection Act’ quietly extended by Congress


    A budget provision protecting genetically-modified seeds from litigation in the face of health risks was extended for three months in an approved US House of Representatives’ spending bill on Tuesday evening.

    Called “The Monsanto Protection Act” by opponents, the budget rider shields biotech behemoths like Monsanto, Cargill and others from the threat of lawsuits and bars federal courts from intervening to force an end to the sale of a GMO (genetically-modified organism) even if the genetically-engineered product causes damaging health effects.

    The biotech rider first made news in March when it was a last-minute addition to the successfully-passed House Agriculture Appropriations Bill for 2013, a short-term funding bill that was approved to avoid a federal government shutdown.

    The current three-month extension is part of the short-term FY14 Continuing Resolution spending bill.

    The Center for Food Safety, a vocal opponent of the rider, released a statement expressing dismay that the measure once again avoided proper legislative process while usurping the power to challenge GMO products in court.

    “The rider represents an unprecedented attack on US judicial review, which is an essential element of US law and provides a critical check on government decisions that may negatively impact human health, the environment or livelihoods,” they wrote. “This also raises potential jurisdictional concerns with the Senate Agriculture and Judiciary Committees that merited hearings by the Committees before its consideration.”

    Following the original vote in March, President Barack Obama signed the provision into law as part of larger legislation to avoid a government shutdown. Rallies took place worldwide in May protesting the clandestine effort to protect the powerful companies from judicial scrutiny.

    “It is extremely disappointing to see the damaging ‘Monsanto Protection Act’ policy rider extended in the House spending bill,” said Colin O’Neil, director of government affairs for Center for Food Safety. “Hundreds of thousands of Americans called their elected officials to voice their frustration and disappointment over the inclusion of ‘Monsanto Protection Act’ this past spring. Its inclusion is a slap in the face to the American public and our justice system.”

    Largely as a result of prior lawsuits, the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) is required to complete environmental impact statements (EIS) to assess risk prior to both the planting and sale of GMO crops. The extent and effectiveness to which the USDA exercises this rule is in itself a source of serious dispute.

    The reviews have been the focus of heated debate between food safety advocacy groups and the biotech industry in the past. In December of 2009, for example, Food Democracy Now collected signatures during the EIS commenting period in a bid to prevent the approval of Monsanto’s GMO alfalfa, which many feared would contaminate organic feed used by dairy farmers; it was approved regardless.

    The biotech rider “could override any court-mandated caution and could instead allow continued planting. Further, it forces USDA to approve permits for such continued planting immediately, putting industry completely in charge by allowing for a ‘back door approval’ mechanism,” the Center for Food Safety said

    http://rt.com/usa/monsanto-protection-extended-house-741/
     
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    Why has this been dumped here?
     
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    Because it is a conspiracy theory I would guess
     
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    What qualifies it as that?
     
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    They sound like just the sort of people, from just the sort of background, that the US Gov would fall over for, right enough..

    The Monsanto family were the first documented Jewish settlers to have migrated to New Orleans from the Netherlands in 1758.

    They were known slave owners and slave traders of 18th century. In 1901, the Monsanto family founded their eponymous chemical company. Its history is intimately linked to the production and promotion of highly toxic chemicals such as the herbicide, Agent Orange (used as a chemical weapon in the Vietnam war, resulting in 400,000 deaths and disabilities, and 500,000 children born with birth defects), and PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls, which can affect fertility, child development, the immune system, and increase the risk of certain cancers). Monsanto has known about the “systematic toxic effects” of such chemicals for decades, but has instructed its salespeople to maintain silence because, “we can’t afford to lose one dollar.”

    The gigantic biotech corporation now imperils the agricultural biodiversity which has supported life for thousands of years. The endless list of genetically modified seeds now sold and controlled via strict patents by Monsanto endanger age-old agricultural patterns under the presumptuous slogan of ending world hunger.


    [video=youtube;pNvWia3dYCE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNvWia3dYCE&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
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    I guess my main issue is that so far there is actually not a single completely validated example where GM-crops have done anything bad to anyone anywhere. And in fact much evidence to support it being good. Such as Golden Rice, which if supplied to Africa would drastically cut down on blindness and death caused by lack of Vitamin A.

    So we have a huge conspiracy over a the possibility that something somewhere could go badly. Well yippy. You realize that at any moment of any day, a meteorite could knock a huge satellite with a nuclear power cell, out of orbit, and have it smash into a city, and spread nuclear contamination over 100 miles? The only difference is, that has a higher probability of happening than GM crops causing mass death, and there's a corporation involved in GM crops.

    See, without the evil troll of 'profit' living under the bridge of the satellite spreading nuclear waste over a city, the conspiracy theorists and leftist ignore it. But since it's a company providing high value food products feeding the world..... while making evil profit.... well then that's a huge deal. Never mind that if the company actually did poison people, the company would be destroyed and all the people jailed, whereas a government satellite contaminating millions would just brush it under the rug, and politicians would blame everyone but themselves for the problems.

    And on top of that, all crops are genetically engineered. All of them are. If you compare domestically produced vegies, with wild vegetables... they are completely and totally different. Domesticated vegies, are just as modified from the wild, as domesticated dogs are nothing like wild dogs. Most GM-crops are produced genetically the same way that breeding a French Poodle or a Black Lab is done, only the methods are different. They use a lab, instead of years and years of breeding out unwanted traits, and breeding in wanted traits. Instead of looking the dogs appearance and traits when the dog matures, they use a lab to map the DNA, and determine which to cross-breed, and which to not.

    When you look at the actual science involved, it's not very scary at all.

    But back to this bill. The problem here is, the FDA already had the power to do what this bill allows them to do. The ability to allow the farmers to continue using the crop, when an investigation is underway, already existed. The FDA already used this ability regarding sugar beets. Let I checked, the news isn't full of people dying of sugar poisoning. The law does not require the FDA grant this ability either. If there was a serious issue, no doubt the FDA would not grant this ability.

    And the fact that companies and farmers lobbied for this, is not a surprise, not evil, and not really worth people getting all arrogant and puffy over. If *YOU* were CEO of a company, and you believed in your product, and a bunch of loony people were pushing government to prevent you from selling your perfectly decent, perfectly safe, valuable product.... *YOU* would lobby government to leave you alone too.

    You people attack companies, and push government to pass laws against companies, and then you are mindlessly 'shocked' that companies lobby against it? Why? When you would do the same thing, and yet then someone else does it, it's some evil conspiracy. How retarded.
     
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    I am confused you say Monsanto was Jewish then post a link saying the founder was Catholic. Which is it?
     
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    I wasn't there but Google says :Here is some interesting MONSANTO history:

    The Jewish Monsanto Family of Louisiana included Benjamin, Isaac, Manuel, Eleanora, Gracia and Jacob. They made frequent purchases of Blacks including twelve in 1785, thirteen and then thirty-one in 1787, and eighty in 1768.

    In 1794, Benjamin sold "Babet," a Black woman, to Franco Cardel. Manuel sold two Blacks from Guinea named "Polidor" and "Lucy" to James Saunders for $850 in silver.

    As individuals they were owners of Africans whom they named "Quetelle," "Valentin," "Baptiste," "Prince," "Princess," "Ceasar," "Dolly," "Jen," "Fanchonet," "Rozetta," "Mamy," "Sofia," and many others. Isaac repeatedly mortgaged four of these when in financial trouble. Benjamin Monsanto of Natchez, Mississippi entered into at least 6 contracts for the sale of his slaves which would take place after his death. Gracia bequeathed nine Africans to her relatives in her 1790 will, and Eleanora also held Blacks as slaves.

    Manuel Jacob Monsanto entered into at least 12 contracts for sale of slaves between 1787 and 1789 in Natchez and New Orleans, Louisiana.1135 "His family consists of himself and seven Negroes."1136 Later, "Jacob Monsanto, son of Isaac Rodrigues Monsanto, one of the very first known Jews to settle in New Orleans, owner of a several-hundred-acre plantation at Manchac, fell in love with his slave, Mamy or Maimi William. Their daughter Sophia, grew up to be a lovely quadroon." An excerpt of one of Benjamin's many slave contracts follows:

    "Be it known to all to whom these presents shall come, that I Benjamin Monsanto do really and effectually sell to Henry Manadu a negro wench named "Judy," aged Eighteen years, native of Guinea, for the sum of four hundred Dollars in all the month of January in the year one thousand Seven hundred and ninety one; and paying interest at the rate of ten per cent for the remaining two hundred and fifty Dollars until paid; said negro wench being and remaining mortgaged until final payment shall have been made; wherewith I acknowledge to be fully satisfied and content, hereby renouncing the plea of non numerata pecunia, fraud, or others in the case Whatsoever; granting formal receipt for the same. For which said consideration I do hereby resign all right, title, possession and claim, in and to the said Slave, all of which I transfer and convey to the Said Purchaser and his assigns, to be, as his own, held and enjoyed, and when fully paid for, Sold, exchanged, or otherwise alienated at pleasure in virtue of these presents granted in his favor in token of real delivery, without other proof of property being required, from which he is hereby released, binding myself to maintain the validity of this present sale in full form and right in favor of the Purchaser aforesaid, and granting authority to the Justices of his Majesty to compel me to the performance of the same as if Judgment had already been given therein, renouncing all laws, rights, and privileges in my favor whatsoever. And I the said Henry Manadu being present, do hereby accept this Instrument in my favor, receiving said negro Wench as purchased in the form and for the consideration therein mentioned and contained, wherewith I am fully satisfied and content, hereby renouncing the plea of non numerato pecunia, fraud, or other considerations in the case Whatsoever; granting formal receipt for the same. Done and executed, in testimony thereof, at the post of Natchez, this nineteenth day of the month of February in the year one thousand seven hundred and ninety...."



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    Benjamin Monsanto, sold land and "a Dwelling House, Store, and two other buildings, for which I have received payment in a negro, named 'Nat;' to my full satisfaction." Another contract stipulated "that Don Louis Faure is bound to defend the said sale in case the negro shall be claimed by any other Person." In a 1792 contract, Benjamin mortgaged his Black slaves: "I do hereby specially mortgage three slaves to me belonging, namely Eugene and Louis, aged twenty four years each, the first named of the Senegal nation and the second of the Congo nation; and a Negro Woman named Adelaide, aged twenty eight years, also of the Congo nation; which said slaves I warrant free from mortgage or other incumbrance, as I have made appear by certificate from the Recorder of mortgages; and which said slaves I promise and engage shall not be sold nor otherwise alienated during the term of this obligation..."

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    The following Jews were known dealers, owners, shippers or supporters of the slave trade and of the enslavement of Black African citizens in early New York history.

    Issack Asher, Jacob Barsimson, Joseph Bueno, Solomon Myers Cohen, Jacob Fonseca, Aberham Franckfort, Jacob Franks, Daniel Gomez, David Gomez, Isaac Gomez, Lewis Gomez, Mordecai Gomez, Rebekah Gomez, Ephraim Hart, Judah Hays, Harmon Hendricks, Uriah Hendricks, Uriah Hyam, Abraham Isaacs, Joshua Isaacs, Samuel Jacobs, Benjamin S. Judah, Cary Judah, Elizabeth Judah, Arthur Levy, Eleazar Levy, Hayman Levy, Isaac H. Levy, Jacob Levy, Joseph Israel Levy, Joshua Levy, Moses Levy, Uriah Phillips Levy, Isaac R. Marques, Moses Michaels, (E)Manuel Myers, Seixas Nathan, Simon Nathan, Rodrigo Pacheco, David Pardo, Isaac Pinheiro, Rachel Pinto, Morris Jacob, Raphall Abraham Sarzedas, Moses Seixas, Solomon Simpson, Nathan Simson, Simja De Torres, Benjamin Wolf, Alexander Zuntz


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    -- Whether some member the family later became conversos , I don't know.

    Jews often behaved like chameleons.
     
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    Excellent work.

    Surprised that they are how they are today?

    Out of bad seed, bad fruit shall grow.
     
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    So Google sent you to an anti-semitic website.....big deal. Just and FYI...more slaves were sold by Black Africans in American than American Jews during the American slave trade....

    - - - Updated - - -

    you understand going to a hate site isn't factual....or are you now hating the Catholics who started Monsanto...
     
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    It's information.

    Factual.

    Stop calling people haters etc.

    It is a personal attack and you get away with it too often.

    It ends now my friend.

    Do it again, and WE shall report YOU.
     
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    Look at me I am scared.

    Report me....go ahead. But you promote hate here.
    Monsanto was started by a Catholic man named John F. Queeny in 1901. He never owned slaves. He named the company after his wife's family whose name was Monsanto. Those are facts. http://www.monsanto.com/whoweare/Pages/monsanto-history.aspx
    The vomit from Rense is hate filled lies.
     
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    Was it anti-semitic ? I don't know - but then you would think so , wouldn't you ?


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    Really ? or are you simply clutching at straws to make an excuse for Jewish slave traders , mind you not only in North America but also in South America - WOT ?


    HUH ? where did it say Catholics STARTED the devious activities of Monsanto. ?

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    No Monsanto was started by a Catholic man in 1901 named Queeny who was Catholic. The Monsanto family it is named after were also Catholic.
     
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    IN which case the Jews took over (as google said ) and phucked it up afterwards - right ?

    Thanks for enlightening me. (wink)
     
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    It's not something I tend to do lightly, but fair is fair. If there are entire words that some are not permitted to use(not profanity or racial slurs), then it is only right and fair that you not be permitted to make other members the topic.

    Just stick to the details in the OP etc.

    Then we're ALL fine.
     
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    Still Monsanto was started by Queeny, a Catholic.
     
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    Where are you getting this Catholic stuff?

    And why ignore ALL the info Marlowe just gave you?
     
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    Its not how you start but where you finish :

    [video=youtube;oIXRTQGWZE0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIXRTQGWZE0[/video] (

    No getting away from the fact that later Jewish control turned Monsanto into what it is today .


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    Monsanto is clearly something which IS a huge concern to many Americans.

    Leaving the very origins aside(which were not part of the original OP anyway), I merely reflected what many esteemed scientists are saying - that this is NOT safe.

    I merely shone some light on the fact that US politicians gave them another free pass, and that this was under reported in the US corporate media.

    And what did I get for this?

    I get it dumped into this section.

    Even forgetting the origins, and just dealing with the here and now, it really says something when it was seen as fitting to dump this here.
     
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    Because it is a lie from a website that promotes anti-jewish hate. it comes from the history of Monsanto from these things call facts.

    John Francis Queeny (August 17, 1859 – March 19, 1933) born in Chicago, founded the Monsanto Company in St. Louis, Missouri as Monsanto Chemical Works, on November 30, 1901 with $5,000.
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    He had 30-years experience in the pharmaceutical industry.

    Catholic came from his bio I posted earlier.
     
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    Monsanto traces its roots to John Francisco Queeny, a purchaser for a wholesale drug house at the turn of the century, who formed the Monsanto Chemical Works in St. Louis, Missouri, in order to produce the artificial sweetener saccharin for Coca-Cola.

    John Francis Queeny (August 17, 1859 - March 19, 1933) started work at age 12 for a wholesale drug company, Tolman and King. He attended school for 6 years until the Great Chicago Fire forced him, at the age of 12, to look for full-time employment, which he found with Tolman and King for $2.50 per week.

    In 1891, he moved to St. Louis to work for Meyer Brothers Drug Company. John was inducted into the Knights of Malta order. His first business, a sulfur refinery in East St.Louis, was destroyed by fire on its first day of operation in 1899. The process of refining beet sugar in 1900, led to Monsanto Corporation's first artificial sweetener, the following year. Butter substitute, MSG and partially hydrogenated vegetable shortening were all soon to follow.

    John Francis Queeny married Olga Mendez Monsanto with whom he had two children, one of whom was Edgar Monsanto Queeny, who would later serve as Chairman. n 1901, John then established his own chemical company to produce the sweetener, saccharin, which was only available in Germany at that time. He named the company Monsanto after his wife´s maiden name, Olga Monsanto Queeny.

    Queeny was a member of the Missouri Historical Society and was a director of the Lafayette-South Side Bank and Trust Company. "He was also known for his many philanthropic endeavors." [Final Resting Place, p. 83, The St. Louis Portrait, p. 221]


    http://bestmeal.info/monsanto/company-history.shtml
     
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    When you decide to pull your head out of the sand , then read this :


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    ""Robert Shapiro's Reality Check
    Monsanto boss's grand vision gets reality check BILLIONS SPENT ON BIOLOGICAL REVOLUTION Robert Shapiro figured his biotechnology factory could serve both humanity and investors. But consumers are wary of food seen as unnatural. Now his products are labelled 'Frankenfoods' and the firm is demonized as 'Monsatan.'""



    Monsanto Co. chief executive officer Robert Shapiro gazed into the future four years ago and envisioned his company as a biotechnology factory on the cutting edge, churning out novel foods and medicines.

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    Do you think Mr. "Shapiro " is a catholic ?

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    Oh please. Self righteous garbage.
     

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