Since there is no imaginary deity it is impossible to be "godly" without duping oneself into believing that an imaginary deity exists. That self deception is what provides shysters with the opening they use to exploit those who "believe" in imaginary deities. And since there is no way to determine whether or not their "belief" is genuine it is just as possible that those shysters are just as "godly" as those that they exploit.
Jesus Christ is God, he is a Creator and a Savior and not just a teacher or a prophet. Jesus came to save us and teach us how to live and he did have the role of prophet, priest and king. He is the Messiah that God used the Jews to bring into the world. He is described as a Creator and Savior in the messianic prophecies of the Book of Isaiah.
Stating the Universe proves God, the truth is in plain sight, etc. is an argument from ignorance fallacy. No one is suppressing anything. Every US hotel or motel I have ever stayed in had a magic book in the room. A large part of our population is subjected to religious brainwashing by their parents, i.e. a form of child abuse.
Proof of this claim is what exactly? A magic book? And if so, how is your magic book different that the magic books of other religions?
Can we please keep partisan politics out of the religion section of PF? These theists not only "find" an invisible Jesus, they "talk" to Jesus.
Religious beliefs inherently are subjective and begin and end with the individual and his or her choosing to believe what they do. For me God is what you say is God and so necessarily your construct or creation. However the fact you create a concept of God and repeat it to me doesn't make you God for having created the God you tell me is God. Its your construct. That's all. I will respect it an try honour it when your message is peaceful. If you use it as a weapon and/or to tell me or anyone elsewhat I or they MUST believe than you engage in the exercise of molestation. If you do that, if you force yourself on me without my full consent, I will defend myself and slay you with my sword and hold your head in my hand and toss it to the hyenas. Figuratively speaking of course. I use a chain saw. Have a nice day.
You are correct that "there is no imaginary deity". That's because the one true God lives. And in living, he is not the construct of ones imagination nor the collective rationale of mankind. Just because you do not know the existence, place, mind, heart and will of God, does not mean he does not exist and know everything about you, even more than you know about yourself. Consider this: Matthew 16:15-20 King James Version 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. --------------------- The point being that one knows of Gods existence and will by personal revelation, which is the "rock" to which Jesus referred.
As always. A quote from a magic book. Always by "personal revelation", never by science. Never evidence. Do you understand what circular logic is? Your Bible doesn't get to claim to be the word of God and then used to prove God. Where are the modern day, i.e., documentable miracles?
The gods of pagan religions don't have the concept of God being holy and righteous. Christian morals are related to moral givens about respecting yourself.
So show me the plane and realm for the machinations evidentiary for your thoughts and words. Or am I just supposed to believe you without the science to show the origin and means for thought. Talk about circular logic. I think therefore I am? You may as well say you dwell in the great blue yonder with the Gods. I am somewhat offended though that you presume to be elevated or established on a higher platform when you stand squarely in the way of your own judgments, which come to think of it ...is kinda funny.
My thoughts are evidenced by speaking, writing, physical actions controlled by a brain, an EEG test, etc. All of which are evidence. I can produce things I have directly created. On the other hand you have no evidence of your invisible man and can provide no evidence he has created anything. You believe the Bible is true because it says so. That is circular logic.
I know that God lives. I quoted the Bible to reiterate the point that personal revelation is not a compilation of evidence to the point of belief. BTW, all of your evidence is after the fact. You have provided no scientific evidence for the origin of your thoughts....merely the means in play after the fact. In the end, you don't know what you don't know. And I do know what I do know.
Certainly the truth is in plain site, look around the vastness of space, it is full of nothing, same as your god! Nobody knows if there is a god or not, you fool yourself in to thinking you do know, you lie to yourself.
In American freedom, the fact that we all spring from one God is the essence of our equality in freedom. We are equal in the commonality and inheritance of a single God. At least that is the purpose of our birth and existence as a nation as stated in the Declaration of Independence. IE: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The last time I had a chat with their imaginary deity he told that he much prefers atheists because, unlike his "followers", they do not constantly ask him for things that he has no intention of ever giving them.
Thank you for establishing that your imaginary deity used ENTRAPMENT to set up the "sin" scenario in the garden of Eden and uses that as a pretext to blame his victims when he punishes them with eternal damnation. Apparently I do KNOW that your imaginary deity is a sociopath going by what he has done to innocent children worldwide.
So your imaginary deity is 100% responsible for 250,0000+ needless DEATHS from HIS Covid virus that he "created" for the purpose of cause wholesale death and suffering to BILLIONS of people? That just comes across as evidence that your imaginary deity is a sick sociopath.
