How to stop rape.

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  1. Brett Nortje

    Brett Nortje Well-Known Member

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    Previously, i found the best way to avoid rape is to, above all else, save your life. this saving of your life can be achieved often by submitting to rape. this would make it sex with someone you would rather not have sex with, but, it could save your life. i would now like to find a way to avoid rape altogether, of course.

    To avoid rape altogether, one must realize, as i have previously found, most rapes are 'date rapes.' this means an attentive woman could find out if the man wants to have sex with her, and, to which degree. if the degree is too high, it is obvious that the man could turn into a rapist, simply by 'subliminal questioning,' of course.

    So, where to from here? can we cut out rape altogether? if we were to observe that the worst rapes are done out on the street, it is usually men that feel they want to 'feel powerful' or 'strong' that can have sex with any woman they want to, yes? if we were to observe a woman in heels will look more 'intimidating,' then maybe that will help? if the woman was to wear a heavy jacket, it could make her look fat, taking away from the lustful thoughts of the man.

    Maybe there could be a scent or fragrance that could 'harm testosterone?' this scent could be applied before the woman hits the street, and, then any man smelling it, up close if not from far away, we could actually make the woman smell like a man, with 'heavy sweat' for the duration of the trip or walk or whatever. this could be done by taking something the woman would like the smell of, and, that men would find quite offensive.
     
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    >"how to avoid rape"
    >"let the rapist rape you"

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    There is no way for rape to ever stop occurring, it might as well be a [very unfortunate] fact of life, but there are measures to prevent rape from occurring, like learning self-defense (ie via martial arts) or to travel with another person when possible, these same precautions are what also help prevent muggings - skills are transferable.
     
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    This is a pretty important topic. We don't really want to wing it on the fly here with half baked amateurish theories. It would be nice if you could substantiate your 'educated' hypothesis, with 1. some reason to believe you have some expertise in this area, and 2. some data or sources beyond your opinions.
     
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    No, that's still rape.

    source?

    Why would we bother editting a woman's behavior when it's obvious that men are the issue in this situation?

    well that's an original idea

    not sure if it would work or not, but original none the less
     
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  5. Brett Nortje

    Brett Nortje Well-Known Member

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    Makes sense to me, makes sense to you, makes sense, yes? these are solutions, of course, not studies and handling it with poop gloves.
     
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    Not really. To your first point, what a woman does when faced with a rapist is going to depend on a hundred variables. It may depend on whether she thinks he has a weapon, how confident he seems, her self defense skills, on whether she has access to a weapon, where they are positioned, and how close help may be etc. My rule of thumb is that while her life is more important, only she can determine those variables. Whatever she decides, gets no judgement from me and I am in no position to be telling anyone what to do, because I don't have any expertise as a police officer, a self defense expert or as a rape profiler who can predict what he may do.

    What makes sense is not to give advice 'that makes sense' absent some professional knowledge on the topic or expertise. In short. If I did not have any, I'd shut the **** up, and let someone else do this who did.
     
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    Maybe they could stop being victims and shoot the rapist in the face, thus ending that rape and any future rapes that person might attempt.

    Out of curiosity, would you submit to a couple guys raping you?
     
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    Perfect avatar for that response.
     
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    I find some duality in your post here. If rape is about power than it wouldn't matter what a lady looked like. It must also be about passion.

    Also I think it's a good idea for people to carry pistols and know how to use them. They're quite simple and a few bullets fired would render any would be rapist either incapacitated or terrified to continue in his pursuit. Also a stunning gun is a fantastic weapon it can incapacitate anybody regardless of size and aim doesn't matter.

    I think the best deterrent for rape or assault in general would be knowing how to defend yourself. Either through martial arts, weapons training or self defense. Once you have the confidence that you can defend yourself you look less scared, and thus you look like less of a target.

    Self defense starts with yourself.
     
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    Yeah, if women started ventilating their attackers craniums that might just put the fear of God into these scum bags.

    That being said personal defense isn't as easy as blowing someone's brains out. I'd imagine that most often times these are ambush attacks. And should somebody come from behind you likely wouldn't get the chance. So I'd say also to learn some fighting skills. Ground fighting would be a good start.
     
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    These ideas of yours turn the victim into aggressor, as, these men are merely 'criminals.' killing is wrong on both sides, so, two wrongs do not make a right, of course.

    Now, i have suggested that the woman wears some heavy testosterone smelling perfume that will disgust the men trying to rape her as if 'stung by a skunk,' yes? do you also have any non lethal means to stop rape?
     
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    Self defense begins with situational awareness.
     
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    Gunsmoke is a smell to that turns off rapists.
     
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    Yes.

    Start castrating offenders.
     
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    I'm a man and I don't know. Why would you?

    I know that sex is a powerful drive and a lot of men go without. This feminist line that rape is all about power strikes me as total crap. As a young man, when you get worked up, especially with some booze added, one can get carried away by their hormones. That is probably why date rape is the most common. I would bet it is often just a matter of young men losing control.

    I have an idea: If you don't want men to be so desperate that they would lose control and force themselves on someone, then make it easier for men to get sex.

    Many women and even some men have no idea how strong the drive can be for some of us. I never did anything inappropriate in the sense of forcing myself on anyone. But I can remember being so horny I thought I would go out of my mind. I can understand how in a moment, some guys might lose it. Compared to a lot of men I have a lot of self control.

    How fundamental is this problem? Historically, when there aren't enough women for the men, societies are more prone to war.

    Hell, if you go back far enough, raiding the neighboring village for their women was common. So the need for women has surely started many wars.
     
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  16. Polydectes

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    Defending yourself doesn't make you an aggressor. 0
    I disagree. Killing in self defense is right.

    I pointed out something that you over looked. If being disgusting will deter rape it isn't about power. So if you are correct that wouldn't work.
     
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    Most certainly. But apparently the OP wants to save all the rapists. So you can't hurt them.
     
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    Killing is wrong. if you were to kill someone that can be handled another way, for example, shooting an intruder in your home, then you are wrong.

    It is not about power, it is about a fantasy. people often wake up from their fantasies, clutching for air or otherwise.
     
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    I reject the premise. Killing has been necessary to protect your own life since the dawn of time.

    If it didn't, we would have no need of police or a military force.

    It is true at both the macro and the micro.

    Do you have a family?
     
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    Submission doesn't stop a rape.

    There is no way to outright stop any-all illicit activities.

    This "Solution" of yours does little to address the act, & would likely see a spike in suicides.
     
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    No, rapists are NOT 'merely' criminals. They are VIOLENT criminals. There is a big difference. Moreover, rapists tend to rape over and over again. A woman who defends herself with deadly force is not only justified in doing so... she also achieves the goal of the OP in preventing rape; not only her own, but countless others that her rapist would have committed had she simply submitted to him..
     
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    There is something instinctive in a rape where the woman is scared, for no other reason than genetics playing a role in her 'trying to try to get away.' no matter how well prepared she is, she will feel scared if she knows what is going on, so, if she knows what is going on, she stands a better chance, yes? this means the numbness of every day life needs to be remedied by these 'lotions' i am speaking of - smelling testosterone is a sure way to keep a woman alert, and the rapist gagging, of course.

    Your solutions of violence to meet violence still leaves someone hurt. is hurting someone the real solution, or, is there another way? imagine, if you will, some kid fantasizing about his economics teacher, and one day he stays after school with her, only to rape her? this would not be a case where he is a malicious rapist, only a scared e.m.o. kid, yes? lacking the ability to deal with e.m.o.'s and other 'liberal babies,' - and i bet you most rape case are committed, in the first world, by liberals? - we need to stop the situation from happening before it does, this would be prevention rather than cure, where the cure would be violence, of course.

    So, maybe something else needs to be done? maybe a ring of some sort could be worked for the women, to tell them, at a glance, where the aggressiveness is coming from? it surely won't be blue, indicating true love, it would likely be white with fear or black with hate, yes? let's work on this ring...

    All it would have to do is 'feel the surroundings.' this could be done by having a few very small hairs placed onto the ring, that feel with great sensitivity, or, big hairs, i am not sure. packaging this could be done with the hairs only sticking out from underneath the mood ring stone slightly. electronically doing this could be done by copying the biology of a mosquito, incorporating, maybe rawly, the mosquitoes body heat sensing ability slighted into the stone, of course. this seems rather easy, with the heat of the surrounds being felt by the stone, where the stone would, if it was touching the woman's finger, get hot or cold with the surrounds as it is not her own heat signature she has gotten used to during the day?
     
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    Violent rapists often kill their victims. Or threaten to kill them, or harm their family, if they report the rape. A woman being raped is justifiably in fear for their lives and the safety of their family.

    Violent criminals need to be segregated from peaceable society until they have been verifyibly re-habilitated, or forever, whichever comes first. The rate of recidivism in our criminal justice system is over 50%. These are, in many cases, violent criminals released back onto our peaceable society by our failed criminal justice system.

    The way to prevent as many rapes as possible from ever happening is to make the would-be rapists understand that their victims are very likely to be armed, and can justifiably kill them. And to make them understand that if their victim doesn't manage to kill them, that they will spend the rest of their life being raped themselves, behind bars. If we understand that rapists are often serial-rapists, then removing them from society... one way or another... prevents and thereby reduces the number of rapes that occur.

    Rape, in my opinion, is a zero-tolerance act of violence. No rapist should ever see the light of day ever again.
     
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    I disagree. Killing an intruder is not wrong.

    Well it's about more than that. I have fantasies but I haven't raped anybody. As for the clutching for air comment I don't quite understand that.
     
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    Women's bodies produce natural testosterone. So I don't think your magic butter is going to work. Further the chemicals people pick up on by sent are pharamones. And if someone smells it all the time they will become complacent with it.

    excuse me. It isn't violence to meet violence it is force to stop violence. And getting hurt is the risk you take.

    It would be the case of a malicious rape. Rape is sexual assault and it is malice.

    This isn't a disease it's an act of malice. It is an assault. Force, not violence but force stops assault.

    Let's not. You need hogwarts and maybe professor McGonagall. The ability to defend oneself is the best defense. Magical trinkets and butters are not pheasable.

    Gumball machine trinkets aren't defense. Force is.
     

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