How Would You Divide Up Russia to give territory to U.S. allies in the aftermath of a war

In my World War Three scenario the U.S. and its allies win with the U.S. forcing the Russians to cede to the U.S. all of its territory east of the Yenisei River. I figured that Finland would expand to Murmansk. And the British would be rewarded with a chunk of territory in the Arabian Peninsula like Yemen and surrounding areas, But what about Poland, Germany, and various other major players in the war?

 

I wouldn't give it to anybody. I would just divide them into microcountries.

 

Sorry but in the wake of world war iii territorial agrandizements will be so far down every one's list of priorities that there will never even be peace talks. The survivors will be too busy finding something uncontaminated to eat.

 

If it is WW3, no one would be left alive, we would have nuclear winters, and nothing will work electronically. So, it won't matter who lives in Russia or the US.

 

Oh gee, another doomsayer. Any war is winnable.

 

Do we have enough ABM capability to win it?

 

I figured the U.S. would construct 4-5000 ABMs and the tracking and support facilities in the build up to the war.

 

Under the Biden Adminstration??? Those idiots would contract it out to the CCP. I'm sorry but team biden couldn't win a ping pong match with a double amputee.

 

No one wins a war between Russia and the US.

 

Maybe just play out your war fantasies in COD and let the folks who'd rather avoid millions of deaths handle the international politics.

 

Biden won't be president or even alive for much longer

 

With nuclear war, no it is not. That's science, not fantasy.

But then again, you have not learned from the Guns of August book, have you?

 

There is no science involved in claiming a nuclear war isn't winnable. Just alarmism.

 

One of my favorites, Proud Tower is just as good and explains a lot of what made it such a disaster. Barbara Tuchman the historian for the every man.
Sadly we now have a similar confluence of events and personalities now and it was a disaster last time and will almost certain be worse this time. I keep thinking of the final scene in the original Planet of the Apes.

 

Yeah and everyone in the run up to WWI was sure it would be over in six weeks.

 

There is science of a 30 megaton nuclear device when it goes off in the air though. And there is some computer models on what the US would look like if 300 nuclear devices hit the entire US. In that analysis, 99.9% of the top soil will be contaminated. The radiation would eventually kill 80% of the population, 10% of the population who live within one to two miles of the burst would be eradicated, and the remaining 10% would have nothing to hold on to, nowhere to grow food, and so forth. Their death would be starvation eventually. The EMP effects would dissrupt any product with a computer chip, and that is pretty much everything, because every computer chip would not be fried due to the emp effect. And the list goes on. It is not that far-fetched. And we know this because we based our studies on what happened in Nagasaki and Hiroshima immediately after those devices were dropped. The bottom line is no one wins in a nuclear war and there is no "acceptable losses" whatsoever.

 

I have heard of the book but have not the time to read it. Would probably prefer the audiobook nowadays. But that is also why we need to trust in our processes, not the individual men who occupy certain offices, but no one is that crazy in real life.

 

The problem isn't crazy the problem is when everyone starts to believe crap that just isn't so. like you can win a nuclear war. One of the nice things about being retired is I can read whatever I want whenever I want. Whenever I can pry myself away from this crap long enough.

 

You should know that MOST of the populations of Hiroshima and Nagasaki survived the nuclear attacks. Both short term and long term

And neither the U.S. or Russia (or China) deploys many 30 megaton nuclear devices.

 

that was a low grade device, about 5 megatons on both bombs. We now have nuclear weapons in the 30 to 40 megaton range. Exponentially, that is a lot deadier with radiation than one was dropped on Nagasaki or hiroshima.

As for those two cities, the city proper was completely destroyed, but most of the population at that time lived away from the city and in the surrounding areas outside of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

 

Don't forget that the geography of Nagasaki had a huge impact on the death toll. Oh and Hiroshima was about 5Kt, and Nagasaki I think about twice that. I think we put larger capacity warheads on cruise missiles these days,

 

Oh really? Prove it.

 

Russia has had a massive brain drain, they cant corridinate a launch of 300 anything, let alone nukes across the ocean.

 

Whew, thank goodness President Harris will be in charge of allied forces. I can imagine the giggling already...

 

Harris won't be in charge either