How Would You Rank The GOP Debaters Tonite?

I didn't see all of it (tennis practive with daughter) but from I saw, I would go as follows:

1. Herman Cain. Clear, concise, confident, articulate & direct. Downside? Could you possibly answer ONE question without 999?
2. Romney. Pretty strong, very smooth and relaxed. Faltered a bit after the Reagan video but otherwise pretty good.
3. Ron Paul! Wow! I didn't see him say anything so off-the-wall, that it will end up a punchline on late night tv! Unusual for him not to lose two points for every point he scores.
4. Newt. I thought he did pretty well tonite.
5. Santorum. A couple of big hiccups but otherwise reasonable.
6. Some toenails I clipped while watching the show.
7. Rick Perry. Really Rick? You come to a debate on the economy equipped with "I'll get back to you on that economy thing." ??? That and his other answers have me wondering if sounding stupid is a prerequisite for Texan politics. Of Course Kay Bailey Hutchison proves that wrong but then, Perry slaughtered her in the Gov Race...
8. SpongeBob.
9. Toe Fungus. I hate toe fungus.
10. Stuff that's less likeable than toe fungus.
11. Michele Bachmann. There's your late night tv punchlines. Seriously? Turn over 999 and you get 666, the number of the beast and Cain's plan? Obama said WHAT??? Lady, you do know that if you lie every hour of your life, people will eventually notice, right?

So there's my rankings. I like Cain more every time I see him. The only candidate that would make my 2012 voting decision easy. How about your rankings?

 

1. Ron Paul - Gets my vote. only one that made known that we need to End the Fed. only issue is his age. he's 76!!

2. Herman Cain - This guy is not electable. his 9/9/9 plan is a trap. He worked for the Fed but is against auditing them or ending them. period.

3. Romney - Mormon stiff. good points, bad plan that's 164 pages long similar to Obamacare. and I'm not too keen on his religious stance and you can tell he will wear it on his sleeve if he gets in office.

4. Santorum - Good points but looked like a Dear in headlights.

5. Rick Perry - flip flops. and voted Gardasil into law in Texas. not cool. But did express energy independence by drilling here at home and getting out of the middle east. but Perry is a fence-rider. he says what's popular but does what's not popular.

6. Bachman - Seems a bit too scared to take charge. had a lot of fluff talk. made some good points and she slammed Obama often which was good and factual

7. Newt. - psycho. nuff said. He talks a good game but he's a hardnosed conservative that won't listen. He'll be like Bush and Obama.

8. Santorum - Didn't seem sure of himself but made some good points.

9. the last boring guy forgot his name. not important.

Overall, Ron Paul was the most coeherent and had the most to say that Americans wanted to hear and see get done. End the Fed, Repeal All of Obama's BS policies, two of the most important.

sidenote- it's clear that nobody liked Obama's policies and his soon to be shortlived term.. People are ready for some real hope and change.

Unfortunately Herman Cain lost my support because he had nothing of substance to say besides 9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9 ....it got old quick. He reminds me of a slightly more educated Jesse Jackson with better vocabulary and tact. but strangely enough his plan is better than Obama's plan is now.

I think Cain could be Paul's running mate for sure, but not the main man.

Rick Perry would never be under Ron Paul so that strikes him out.

the others appeared to be stale and stiff and rigid. I could feel Ron Paul's passion jump off my screen and to a lesser degree Herman Cain was passionate. but the rest seem like they rehearsed some canned responses.

 

I missed it. Seems Cain did well huh? If so, he could really start to run away with it. I wonder how he would fair against Obama with his lack of experience though? I wonder who he has in mind for VP if he makes it.

 

Oh, and Bachmann is a flat out liar. Don't believe what she says, she has been busted so much by politifact I just laugh now.

Example:

 

Well he wouldn't tell us who he would put in place of Bernanke but did let the world know that Bernanke is a disaster

Newt called for Bernanke and Soros to be investigated possibly jailed...lol..and although they do need to get the boot, they probably won't spend a day in jail.

almost all of them wanted to keep the Fed, which is a bad idea IMO.

 

A lack of experience didn't stop Obama.

 

and it actually made him more brazen.

 

1. Romney and Cain / tie.
Romney fumbled the gotcha question aimed at him about the European economic crises coming here.
I wish the same would have been asked of Paul and Cain.Talking about the FED all night long and 9.9.9. wouldn't prevent that event from coming here either.

2. Newt ..Very warm and genuine..but is applying for a job he'll never get..His play nice toward Romney will be rewarded...with a behind the scenes position..

3. Paul. I dislike everything he says about Iran , foreign policy..but this was just where he always wants to go..He seems less and less a republican at every debate..attacking everyone's position as wrong.Republicans shouldn't include him,he will not support a Republican for the 3rd time next election. Not 1 question about ending the war on drugs and cost and effect ..FEMA and who pays for natural disaster aid.

4. The Rest.
Will someone coach Perry to make him at least appear he is excited to be running for President ?
I know slow is the south in talk and mannerism..but geez..the guy seems out of it. If he was a Mormon..Bachmann would be tied with Cain. The tea party threw her under a bus pretty fast for this guy?
A big Texan ?
John Wayne in a political uniform he is not. The Alamo would have been taken without a shot with this guy asleep at the cannons.
Perry is doing more to hurt Texas tourism and business than help.

Who else was there ?

 

They have not provided any reason to watch the debate.

 

Ron Paul - The only one that thought out what he would do past the next two weeks.

All the rest - FOS as a Christmas goose.

 

Romney's won every debate so far and will win them all until November 2012.

 

Having survived last night's GOP debate, some observations and grades...

Mitt Romney - I've followed the NHL for over 40 years and Romney's performance in these GOP debates reminds me of something they used to say about superstar Wayne Gretzky. You could never really hit him. His on-ice vision was so much better than anyone else's, he'd always move out of the way just before he got crushed. Romney is so much smoother, so much cooler than the others its not funny. Add in Gov. Christie's endorsement yesterday and he's the prohibitive favorite to be the Republican nomination in 2012. It will take something of scandalous proportions to see him fall at this point. Grade B+


Rick Perry - The Governor from Texas is slipping with each debate. While there were no mumbling demonstrations last night like in previous debates, Perry was mostly a non factor. Romney scored a huge hit against him when responding about how Massachusetts handled insuring their children compared to how Texas performed. Perry admits debates aren't his strong suit, but unless he can find traction in some other form, he's doomed. If he only performed as well in these debates as his internet ad against Romney was made, well...he doesn't, does he? Grade D

Herman Cain - I have to give this guy credit. Basically coming out of nowhere, he's obviously comfortable in his own skin and has a definite charm about him. His 9-9-9 economic plan hasn't been dismantled just yet by his competition in these debates and he's pretty good at counter punching. Naming Cleveland businessman Richard Lowrie as one of his main economic advisers may bring him...

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Does Rick Perry have a drinking problem?

 

Does Perry remind anyone else of the girl or guy you really, really wanted to take out in high school. Finally, when it actually happened, it was a massive let down.

Sometimes, the hunt is more exciting than the catch, eh?

 

not if that 164-page plan he's got under his cloak is exposed by then.

 

That must be the abridged plan. 164 pages isn't long enough for the mess this country is in.

 

Romney thinks it is. but no worries. Romney doesn't have a snowball chance in Hell of winning. too many red flags on him already. similar to Bachmann and Perry.

I say focus your vote on a possible Ron Paul/Herman Cain ticket. both men are very likeable and have vast knowledge. the only problem is their differences on ending the Fed.

 

The continued attacks on Romney are wearing thin..the thread was about how they did last night.
You can read Romney's plan..
I linked to it long ago..it is in simple non lawyer English.

Paul will need to explain what happens when he ends the FED alone.
Cain will need to explain how state sales taxes added on purchases with the new national sales tax will benefit everyone paying 12-18 % ( total sales tax ) on food and every other new purchase..You do know that states charge on some used things like cars and boats..?

Think that will spur the underground economy more ?
When you figure it takes away every deduction ..6 % net gain is not a certainty.Ask your tax person this year ... For giggles keep track on everything you buy..from gas to food..add 9 %
Enjoy.

 

I like Ron. I donated to his campaign in 2008. I think of him as a grandfatherly type. He doesn't have a prayer of winning the nomination. Move on.

Herman Cain isn't substantive enough on the issues. 999 will not carry him much farther.

 

And Romney needs to explain how he plans to audit the Fed since he's in league with them staying in power. this red flag alone kills his chances because the nation wants it done away with or at least audited.

and Ron Paul only wants the Fed audited, so does Cain. they both know the Fed has it's claws way too deep into our nations pockets to just up and leave.

I think Paul is forcing their hand by asking the nation to End the Fed. it's a awesome approach to put them on notice and put them in check since they now know that the nation is keen to the Fed(IRS) abuses of our tax dollars over the years.

 

MnBillyBoy,

Can you re-post the link. I've been trying to find the plan (would like to read up on it).

I'm not going to waste my time ranking all the candidates because it appears to be a two horse race at this point. However, let me say that Newt was the most impressive.

In the two horse race, I think Romney hit a HR and Cain struck out. It was the only debate I watched and was unimpressed by Cain (had hoped for a better showing for him). His remark that Greenspan was the best Fed Chair was embarrassing. And I thought he really fell flat when he really couldn't justify his 999 plan when asked a rather simple question by the moderator. He was asked how it was beneficial to lower income people being that he was implementing a 9% sales tax and their individual tax savings wouldn't be that much. He answered that they would have a 6.2% savings on payroll tax and could decide how to spend that money. Admittedly I scratched my head on that one. So we have a 2.8% discrepancy and he thinks people are better off?! Not a good answer and made him come across as rather ignorant.

 

But Obama looks more like a President.

 

Looks can be deceiving

 

LOL! Is your avatar Yoda smoking a joint???