http://www.motherjones.com/transiti...rachel-maddow-documentary-iraq-war-david-corn After watching this documentary twice,does not leave one shred of doubt that we were scammed into this war. I hope the one's responsible will be brought to justice. Just as the war lord they hung, they should get the same rope. Shame on them for murdering our young men and women, along with countless thousands of Iraqis.
Talk about full of it. I challenge you to prove in "anyway", that you can disprove any of this information. YOU WILL NOT, AND CANNOT. There were too many eye witnesses that were directly or indirectly involved who came forward before and after this war was declared, with the most valuable of information that could have stopped it. And the administration chose to ignore it. Mother Jones has nothing to do with it. But the witnesses do! And with those witnesses,it proves, this was murder in the first degree. People don't want to hear this. But we all know it's true. The ones in charge should go to jail for treason and murder. If there was even a shred of dishonesty or misinformation with this documentary, Cheney, Bush and his gang would have already had a case against it. But, I will be eagerly awaiting your version of what really happened, since according to you, Mother Jones is a nut case site. Prove to me that they are. If this is the fringe of conspiracy, prove it.
C'mon, man, we were scammed into that war. I know it, the world knows it, and you know it. The only issue remaining is WHY we were scammed. I think it was a happy convergence of zionists pretending to be Americans and piggy oil men wanting to keep Saddam's oil OFF the market.
some pretty good explanations here http://gwynnedyer.com/2013/iraq-ten-years-later/ - - - Updated - - - http://gwynnedyer.com/2013/iraq-ten-years-later/
There is an old saying, but one that should be obvious every time locig comes into play: You can't prove a negative. It is not up to me to disprove your claim, it is up to you to prove your claim. And a single biased source has not, is not, and never will be proof. After all, you can claim that the universe is only 5,000 years old, and that on the other side is another universe. However, I can't "prove" you wrong, because such things are all theory and conjecture. I can say we got involved in WWII because of "the jews", and even make a video and post it on YouTube and StormFront giving all of my evidence. But that does not mean it is true. This is where, why, and how you fail. It is not up to me to disprove your claim, you have to prove it. And generally this is done by consulting multiple independent and non-biased sources.
I read the article and I don't see what the smoking gun is. What has come out since the book was published 7 years ago?
Try watching the video. The video with first hand testimony from the people who were there, plus the physical evidence about the aluminum tubes really was the smoking gun. When you ignore that kind of information, it leaves zero doubt.
Why would the it be in the video and not in the article? As soon as you start telling me that all the answers are in a youtube video, but there isn't any actual documentation, I figure I'm getting "truthered."
as the citizens of every other western country saw thru this sham, I can only assume that americans subconsciously WANTED to be scammed. why else would 70% of them polled by gallup say saddam did 9/11. In no other western country could that happen!!
It is a documentary. The scientist in charge of finding out if the aluminum tubes were thick enough to be used with enriched uranium to make a nuclear war head, gave testimony in that documentary that they were not. That information was logged and sent to the administration, only to be ignored. If this wasn't true, why haven't Bush/Cheney denounced that information publicly as being false?
Because that was the propaganda they were throwing at us. They didn't want to be scammed. But the people did want justice.And that's all Bush needed. It doesn't take but one bad apple broadcasting a bunch of bogus information to an already angry mob of people thirsty for justice,only to lead them down the wrong path. I'm convinced he wanted this war. Afghanistan and Bin Laden wasn't his first choice. But that war was the ammunition he needed for the second one. In his mind, Hussein was an arrogant dictator hell bent on not cooperating with weapons inspections after daddy Bush defeated him on the first war. But Hussein decided the best way to get under our skin after daddy Bush beat him, was to give us the run around. And Bush the son new in his mind, Hussein could disrespect his father and him at the same time, just by not cooperating. Bush the son couldn't deal with it. That's why we went to war. And that's why Bush ignored all the information that would have kept us from going there.
do you really believe that everyone in the western world wasn't hearing the same nonsensical propaganda and watching in amazement as americans fell for it?? most of them were too young to remember how easy it was to do the same thing in the Vietnam years so they found it hard to believe what they were seeing
Does the documentary say where the original report on the aluminum tubes came from? That will let me know if they know what they are talking about of if this is just another truther-like video.
The scientist himself was interviewed and he established that the tubes weren't applicable for bomb making and that information was given to the administration. They had full access to it. You can believe what you like, just as Bush himself chose to believe what he wanted to hear. But in my opinion, you really have to be out there floating on a cloud somewhere, not to see this for what it is. Colin Powell, Powell's assistant, the scientist, and many others, new this was botched intelligence. But Powell was ordered to sell it to the world.
Wait a minute! First you said this was a scam and the perpetrators should be hung, and now you're saying it's botched intelligence. It's either a scam, and the intelligence was deliberately and purposefully altered, or it's botched, in which case we got it wrong like every other intelligence agency in the world. So which is it?
You're a little dense.The intelligence was botched at the time Powell took the case to go to war to the united Nations. "On purpose"! He just didn't know that was what was happening for sure at the time, according to him. The end result was that the american people were scammed into this war.
How did the conspirators botch "on purpose" the intelligence of every other western nation? Or is the conspiracy greater than I can imagine?
You know what? Just watch the documentary. You're going to want to believe what you want to believe anyway. Many people conveniently do not want to know the truth. But in their own private room somewhere, they know all this is true. They're just not going to admit it.
If you can't give us any evidence but your "documentary", then you have no evidence at all. And you still have yet to verify anything other then to tell us to watch some video clip. Hey, Hitler was alive for decades after WWII ended! I know it is true, because I saw it on a video clip on YouTube! [video=youtube;O91fk5ERMMM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O91fk5ERMMM[/video] And the Earth is flat! [video=youtube;oc0trwHSRIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc0trwHSRIA[/video] Obviously this is all true, and the proof is right on YouTube!
Yes... I can see that people are going to believe what they want to believe anyway, with no evidence or documentation except for a clip on Youtube.
Copy and pasted from the article. If you would, highlight the areas that are wrong or a conspiracy theory in your opinion.
I'm just waiting for "A Clean Break" to hit the air waves and US print media. If people have been told the truth that all of our said reasons for going into war are false, it is time for the people to know the realpolitik decisions in which lead us there, I.e. the real reasons we went into War in the Middle East. "A Clean Break" is right there. Look at who we're staring down in the ME today, as well, the moves made by Israel, Turkey and Jordan.
