Human Flourishing Requires More Fossil Fuel Use, Not Less

you were the first one that mentioned Trump by name in this thread

 

Only after you started talking about his residence and we all know who lives there so we know who mentioned them first even if you technically didn't use his name it's no great mystery who you were talking about so get out of here with that mess

 

he must live rent free in the rights brain

 

This is a misapplication of Julian's theories. Julian's primary assertion was that ingenuity is civilization's greatest resource. You also have to account for his base layer education - experimental psychology, nothing related to natural sciences. His continued education was his MBA and a PhD in business economics.

So what have you achieved by citing a guy with this background to support your assertion that natural resources are without limits?

Seems insufficient to me, and, well, it's not just to me: your reply is nothing other than a self-licking ice cream cone. You've cited an academic economist to support your assertion that Earth's organic reserves limits are more a matter of economics rather than they are of geology. Hence my criticism. Your argument would be well more substantially bolstered were you to cite a geologist or a petroleum engineer that makes a similar assertion.

Be that as it may, Julian's assertion would possibly tilt toward not the argument that organic reserves are limitless so much as he might have argued instead that alternatives will almost assuredly be developed.

 

Please look up Simon's famous wager with Paul Ehrlich about natural resources.

 

Yep. Read about it. Insubstantial.

 

This is your response when I assert that your argument amounts to nothing more than a self-licking ice cream cone?

 

Your reply is insubstantial, and you have yet to show you understand Mr. Simons wager that he won so easily against a man who was famous for pushing his depletion predictions going back to the 1960's that have been comically wrong yet still listened to by warmist/alarmists to this day......., I consider that embarrassing.

It is clear you don't understand Simon's position.

 

Et tu SunsetTommy? You share Jack's opinion that crude oil reserves are infinite? And that the opinion of an abundance economist substantiates such an assertion? Because he won a bet regarding the commodity price change over a 10 year span on Cu, Cr, Ni, Sb and W?

Simon's theories seem to offer some substantial merit, but to apply them as the basis for an argument that crude oil reserves are unlimited is, as I already posted, a misapplication of Simon's observations, and worse, offers the opinion of an economic abundance expert theorist as proof of the theory.

 

It is clear you don't understand Simon's work who NEVER said any resources are infinite neither has Jack or me.

Your argument seems to center on something no one else posits thus you run on nothing.

 

Resource exhaustion has never limited human development. The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stone.
“This is my long-run forecast in brief:

The material conditions of life will continue to get better for most people, in most countries, most of the time, indefinitely. Within a century or two, all nations and most of humanity will be at or above today's Western living standards.

I also speculate, however, that many people will continue to think and say that the conditions of life are getting worse.”
― Julian Simon

 

Indeed. There is nothing about infinite resources in the sentence: "Our supplies of natural resources are not limited in any economic sense."

 

If you poke the bear enough, the bear will eventually poke back.
Exxon Threatens to Divert Investment Away from the EU over the Energy Windfall Tax
Eric Worrall
Life in the EU – If it moves, tax it, if it stops moving, subsidise it. . . .

 

Energy Use 2020 to 2021
Andy May
By Andy May We now have another year of energy consumption data, what does it tell us? The graph from ourworldindata.org is shown below: Energy use is going up. Are…

Total global energy use increased 8,650 TeraWatt-hours in 2021 and 83% of the increase was supplied by fossil fuels! Only 14% of the increase was supplied by renewables, with an additional 3% by nuclear.

But, what about total energy consumed in 2021? It was 176,431 TeraWatt-hours, 77% fossil fuels and 13% renewable, excluding nuclear. Sounds impressive until you realize that 83% of the added energy consumption in 2021 was supplied by fossil fuels, which means renewables are losing ground and fossil fuels are gaining. Sorry environmentalists, your goal is moving away from you.

 

I knew renewables could not be gaining much market share, but to see that they are actually losing ground to fossil fuels is pretty significant.

 

There is a reason why they are increasingly being called Ruinables as the EC and Power industry is failing and stocks are dropping with an increasingly uncertain future....

 

Climate Goals Thwarted As German Energy Consumption Data For 2022 Shows A Return To Coal!
By P Gosselin on 6. January 2023

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German energy monitoring site Agora-Energiewende looks at the year 2022 and it winds up only as it possibly could. The return to coal shows up quite clearly in the numbers, the FAZ reports.

The increased use of coal-fired power plants as a gas substitute has thwarted Germany’s climate goals in 2022, according to a study. Although overall energy consumption fell by almost five percent, mainly due to high prices, the use of coal and oil cancelled out the greenhouse gas savings, according to an evaluation published Wednesday by think tank Agora Energiewende.

Also the transportation and construction sectors could not reach its targets in the past year again. Thus Germany, based on provisional figures, produced 761 million tons of greenhouse gas almost exactly as much as 2021. The self-imposed upper limit for 2022 was missed by about five million tons.”

Thematically, an article from Die Welt (paywall) fits in:

Insulation chaos and nuclear phase-out end the dream of clean energy … Gedaschko went on to say, ‘The experience of recent years shows more than clearly that, with a political tunnel vision, the requirements for the energy efficiency of individual buildings have been unilaterally set far too high. This has led to very expensive compulsory energy measures with far too little savings effect.’

In new building construction, for example, the Efficiency House 40 standard will be mandatory from next year on, and a sustainability certificate will also be required. Many project developers view the requirements as being hardly feasible against the background of high construction costs. The Ministry of Housing, Urban Development and Construction nevertheless intends to stick to its current strategy. ‘We will do everything we can in the new year to further reduce greenhouse gas emissions in construction, remodeling, renovation and housing,’ said a spokeswoman. There continues to be ‘great potential for reduction.’ That’s why the federal government is currently working on an “immediate program.'”

 

Oil to the rescue.
Green Energy Revolution? Oil Use Growing at a Million Barrels per Day Per Year
Eric Worrall
Other than the Covid lockdown dip, there is no evidence of a drop in demand for oil. . . .

 

So much for renewables.
Duke Energy Apologises for Winter Storm Renewable Energy Failure, Rolling Blackouts
Eric Worrall
“… solar generation performed as expected but was not available to meet the peak demand since the peak occurred before sunrise. …”

 

Climate Divestment: Kentucky Boycotts Woke Anti-Fossil Fuel Banks
Eric Worrall
Will woke fossil fuel hating banks like BlackRock have to disclose the risk of being boycotted by GOP states on their SEC climate risk declarations? . . .

 

German Green Energy Fail: Demolishing a Village to Expand a Coal Mine
Eric Worrall
Massive protests have erupted in the village of Luetzerath, as German authorities advance plans to demolish the village to make way for more coal mining. . . .

 

SoCalGas Shock: California Gas Prices Skyrocket 128% in One Year
Eric Worrall
As energy prices in coal states remain steady, California is continuing its green energy revolution plan to bankrupt residents with out of control price rises. . . .

 

Experience doesn't grade on the curve.
Confessions of an Environmentalist
Charles Rotter
Just because you feel like you’re doing the right thing doesn’t mean you are. . . .

 

The False Promise of Net Zero Emissions
Loury & Koonin, Substack




If you keep up on the popular literature on climate change—the long magazine pieces, the books touted in the New York Times, and... Read More

 

UK Coal Plants Fired Up AGAIN as Renewable Energy Output Fails
Eric Worrall
Coal plants scheduled for demolition in March 2023 have been fired up to rescue Britain’s electricity grid. My question – what is the plan for next winter?