I believe Trump DID receive a mandate.

He did not break 50% of the vote. So it's not a mandate in the sense that Obama and Biden received by which these two were expected to do everything they could to fulfill what they promised in campaign.

Some of my colleagues on the left might disagree. But I do believe there is ONE thing that Trump received a mandate for: fix immigration!

This was the ONE issue that I think was almost unanimously in the Trump voters' minds. At least it was in the mind of every MAGA I have talked to. So I would call it a mandate.

Now... let's be clear about what a "mandate" is and what it's not. A "mandate" is not a "right". It's a command that the people give to their President. In other words, Trump MUST fix immigration. Otherwise his administration will be a total failure.

Another thing that a mandate is NOT is some sort of "license" to circumvent the constitution, or to violate human rights. He MUST fix immigration within the parameters of the law and the rights of We The People (which includes immigrants).

We shall see HOW he intends to fix immigration. I don't think it's difficult at all. To fix illegal immigration, all he needs to do is bring back Biden's Border Bill. Republicans SAID at the time they voted against it because it contained aid for Ukraine. Well.... the aid for Ukraine PASSED. But the immigration part didn't, because of THEM. They later admitted that it was actually because it would work! But that's water under the bridge.

Again: a mandate does NOT give a President some "right" to violate the constitution or human rights. With that in mind, how do you think HE would do it?

I've heard talk about "Concentration Camps" in Texas. That is illegal even without the Gas Chambers. So what do YOU think he'll do? I'm sincerely interested to know.

 

do you think those who come here illegally and then commit felonies should be

1) sent to prison and then deported

2) deported and told if they come back then they will really be punished severely

3) Trump wants capital punishment for any illegal who murders and American citizen-do you support that?

 

I have no problem with 1 and 3


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I don't know. Whatever the law prescribes.... I'm only prepared (as my sig indicates) to discuss the topic in the OP.

BTW, I don't support capital punishment. Not because I think it's inhumane or anything like that. But because I believe it gets murderers off the hook too easy. To me, life in prison is worse than a lethal injection where one just... falls asleep as if nothing had happened.

Different topic, though. Open a thread if you want to discuss further.

Now... with that out of the way, what is YOUR solution to the immigration problem.

 

I thought this topic was solving the illegal immigration problem
I don't disagree with the rest

 

So when the deportations of criminal aliens start, how many of you progressives plan to call Trump racist and xenophobic?

 

I will take 95% for 2000 Ken

 

Yes. That is EXACTLY the topic. How would you solve it?

Don't tell me you believe the immigration problem would be solved by giving the death penalty to any illegal immigrant who commits murder.

You should know that in their own country, they and their family would be sentenced to death by drug cartels if they REFUSED to commit murder.

 

I personally agree with all 3.....

Why are you and I agreeing in 2024 instead of 2021?

 

I don't support the death penalty but I do support honest citizens being able to defend themselves. If someone commits a felony in the USA and is here illegally, I would support them serving the appropriate prison sentence and then deporting them. If they come back then they should be locked up for life. I would get rid of the anchor baby nonsense though I know that would take an amendment. Children of illegals should not get citizenship. Those who are here illegally but working productively, free of a criminal record, I might support a path to citizenship that is more drawn out than those who apply legally. those who are here illegally and have prior criminal records should be deported immediately and banned from ever coming back. if they come back, jail them for life

 

The one failing of the Harris campaign was not to hammer home how much immigration had slowed and that bill that was overturned

 

The irony? Mark my words -- Trump will NOT "fix immigration"! He won't deport millions of migrants who came here illegally or under false pretenses. He'll round up and off-load a few dozen easily-proven criminals, and that's about it.

Even if he really were to try to get all the illegals, 'asylum-scammers', and other opportunistic trash out of here, he'd be hammer-locked by the hyperliberal judges, the ACLU, and other 'migrant-advocacy' organizations who are going to fight him, HAMMER AND CLAW! He can't fight a momentum that has been moving ever since the late 1960's... I've watched it all happen since I was I was in high school, 'a million years ago'....

 

You think that was her one failing?...lol

 

Why do you keep talking about the death penalty in a thread asking for your solution to illegal immigration?

Ok. Maybe I should have clarified that I'm talking about REALISTIC solutions to illegal immigration. I think the main problem is that immigrants are allowed to stay in the country illegally because there aren't enough resources or judges to process them and deport the ones who do not qualify for asylum.

How do you think Trump is going to solve that? I gave one solution in the OP. But that solution would ALREADY be in place if it hadn't been because Trump STOPPED it. So what else do you think he will do?

 

well Trump has advocated the death penalty for say a mope like the POS who killed Laken Riley.

I think Trump should start with the criminals and see how that plays out.

 

The IQ of sub termite didn't help nor did her inability to answer anything tougher than t-ball questions might have played a roll as well

 

Yes. I think immigration was the single policy topic in the mind of most MAGA voters. And on this topic, all she did was repeat the line "Trump prefers to run on a problem rather than solve the problem". Which is true, but most voters don't have the brains to understand what she meant.

That and their insistence on a "high-road" campaign, by which Trump's crimes and sexual abuse were not highlighted every minute of every day, were the main reasons she lost. But as far as policy, I agree that what you say was the number one failure.

 

Really??? How shocking!!!!!

I'm sure you know I'm being sarcastic...

I could not agree more.

The problem is that he will have to give the APPEARANCE that he is doing something. So I'm concerned that some illegal or inhumane policy, similar to child separation, is not out of the question. It will fail.... but it will also harm a lot of people.

Well.... the ACLU doesn't defend scammers just because they're scammers. What they defend is people's rights to due process. And that's where they'll clash with the Trump administration. They WILL fight for the rights of ALL to be protected. But once the process has played out, they have no quarrel with any deportations that were legally mandated.

 

And THAT is how Trump will fix immigration?

Ok... start preparing for 77 million disappointed voters....

 

why ignore the many other solutions he has proposed. Like finishing the wall? Like thrashing the sanctuary city bullshit

 

From what I learned from PF posts - Trump received a mandate to fix many things – immigration, inflation, outsourcing, national debt, to destroy Marxism, wokism and to help working Americans.

My guess – Trump will achieve all these goals, and if not – he will convince majority of voters that it was Democrats fault.
My other guess - Democrats did not learn anything and will try convince their own shrinking base that it was Trump fault that they lost, because they almost fix immigration problem.

 

Anything Biden brought in should be buried.

You need a fresh start.

I suggest turning away 10 times more at the border. At the moment it's a 50/50 chance when you rock up to get into the country. Make it 5% chance.

Deport non-citizen criminals the day they get out of jail that's what we do in Australia. On the plane.

Don't talk about pathways to citizenship for illegals/Dreamers/other situations until you've stopped more coming into the country. Otherwise it encourages more to come. Not a very difficult capiche there.

I have more ideas but you've got the gist of it.

 

Are you serious? The wall? That's how he's going to solve illegal immigration? First of all, even if it COULD be built in less than ten years (or.... EVER) it might stop a TINY portion of illegal aliens.

Please quote the part of the Constitution that delegates the power to do that to the President!

Doesn't look like you think Trump is going to solve immigration, does it?

 

Cool! Let's start with one: how will he solve the immigration problem? That's what this thread is about.

 

I don't think he will achieve them all, however if the immigration situation doesn't improve I'll eat my hat.