I formally call on Hamas to surrender

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  1. Tipper101

    Tipper101 Well-Known Member

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    I am happy to announce being the first apparent supporter of all peaceful Palestinians to call on the surrender of Hamas—to stop making the Palestinian people suffer needlessly against an enemy Hamas cannot win against. Enough blood on all sides had been shed.

    Forget the ceasefire—that’s simply a transparent way of making the misery last longer by allowing Hamas time to regroup, reorganize, and re-entrench. Israel knows this, hence they won’t offer any ceasefire.

    So, for the sake of the countless innocents that we know Hamas cares deeply about, hence why it’s ambulances were full of innocent people it was desperately trying to evacuate to safety because saving Palestinian lives is its MO, please Hamas, pretty please, submit yourselves to surrender where you can still make the trials into a media circus and act like oppressed victims. Wouldn’t that be nice?

    So please, all you other Pro-Palestinian supporters around here, please join me in calling for Hamas’ surrender. Thank you
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hamas is Israels Bin Laden, they will need to take him out, he is too powerful for any Palestinian to do so and as long as he has power, there can be no peace
     
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    Did they contact you yet?
     
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    There will never be peace as long as the Muslim mothers teach their children they must grow up to kill all Jews.
     
  5. Tipper101

    Tipper101 Well-Known Member

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    So no one wants Hamas to surrender? Interesting. Plenty of people are calling for Israel to stop. Why wouldn’t those same people call for Hamas to stop?
     
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    Don't know if this is sarcasm or not. However, even AQ and ISIS have not surrendered, but we did surrender to the Taliban with Trump's peace agreement though. Just sayin......
     
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    There will never be peace in that region for three reasons: both Arabs and Israelis believe in revenge, the mantra of why I should negotiate peace when I am strong or in the right, and Israel must reconcile with its past, especially since 1967 when it occupied the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
     
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    Don't forget Isaac and Ishmael.
     
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    Muslims will kill themselves to kill others. They don’t care if they can’t win.
     
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    Tipper101 Well-Known Member

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    So you don’t want Hamas to surrender?
     
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    As long as Likud persists in slaughtering thousands of innocent children women, and men, Hamas is achieving its objective and winning.

    Bomber Bibi is overcoming sympathy for the 1400 innocent Israelis Hamas cravenly killed by taking the lives of 10,000 innocent Palestinians.


    ... [F]ormer leader Ehud Barak fears Israel has only weeks left to eliminate Hamas, as public opinion — most significantly in the U.S. — rapidly swings against its attacks on Gaza.

    Barak... observed the rhetoric of U.S. officials had shifted in recent days with a mounting chorus of calls for a humanitarian pause in the fighting. The sympathy generated toward Israel in the immediate wake of October 7, when Hamas launched the deadliest terrorist attack on Israel in the Jewish state’s 75-year history, was now diminishing, he worried.

    "You can see the window is closing. It’s clear we are heading towards friction with the Americans about the offensive. America cannot dictate to Israel what to do. But we cannot ignore them,” he said, in reference to Washington’s role as the main guarantor of Israel’s security. “We will have to come to terms with the American demands within the next two or three weeks, probably less.”

    Barak... noted Western support was weakening because of the civilian death toll in Gaza and fears of Israel’s campaign sparking a much broader and even more catastrophic war in the region.

    [https://www.politico.eu/article/ehud-barak-israel-palestine-war-hamas-global-opinion-sours/]
     
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    So those who support peaceful Palestinians should hope Hamas hangs on in the hope that the west will stop Israel so that Hamas will continue to exist, attack Israel and we can rinse and repeat all the deaths till now?

    that seems a peculiar strategy to me
     
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    Most of the world does not look through a Biblical lense.
     
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    You don't think Muslims, who pray 5 times a day, don't look through the world with a biblical lense? LOL . You have to get out of your personal bubble and realize different cultures have different standards. Have you ever traveled to the middle east?
     
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    And release the hostages.
     
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    There is fantasy and there is reality. Hamas surrendering to anyone is a fantasy. The reality is no group like Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, AQ, the Taliban can be decimimated but none have surrendered.
     
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    Because it is a silly waste of time.
     
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    First, Muslims don't use the Bible. Second, there are five pillars of Islam, including praying. Third, hadiths, or edicts, are what some Muslims use. Fourth, like all religions, inclding Christianity and Islam, scriptures and hadiths are often misquoted, misused, misinterpreted, and so forth for worldly political gain.
     
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    Wrong. Muslims, Jews, and Christians all share the old testament. All view themselves as children of Abraham, and all pray to the same god.
     
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    According to Salah 4, the Quron, Jews, and Christians are considered"brothers and sisters of the Book" and Mohammed is His prophet. All three worship the same Abrahamic God, but Muslims have the Quran, not the Torah, as their guiding religious book. Jews have the Torah, and Christians have the Bible, both Old and New Testament, since the First Council of Niccea in the 4th century AD.
     
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    Even the Founding Fathers wrote about not getting involved with the Islamists because they were flat out crazy.
    They have been at the killing business too long to change. Some day, some ruler, most likely Iran, will spark off a nuclear weapon.
    And here we are pretending to "have a peaceful influence". It is not going to happen. The die was cast in 460'ish AD.
     
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    Your notion seems strange to me as well.

    It is, obviously, not in the interests of Israel to persist in slaughtering even more innocent Palestinian children, women, and men in addition to the approximately 10,000 it has already killed, but that is obviously the response Hamas hoped to trigger. It strengthens Hamas.
     
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    They should also call on Hamas to release the hostages.
     
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    Hamas gets support from Iran. Without support they cannot wage war. So if you aren’t willing to call on Hamas to surrender then call on Iran to stop funding terror. Call on all countries to blacklist Iran including maximum sanctions until they do.
     
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    so are online forum posts. Yet here you are. Spamming away
     

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