I have decided, I am voting for Trump

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  1. jdog

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    Being an libertarian / anarchist I was fairly sure I would abstain from this election because I could not endorse any of the candidates.
    As this election has progressed, I have witnessed the establishment pull out all of the stops in an attempt to crust one candidate, Trump.
    He has been portrayed by the corporate owned media as a lunatic and a madman.
    He has been denied by the party who he claims to be a member of.
    He has been slandered and attacked by the entire establishment who tries its best to make the public believe he is the next Hitler.

    Then came the fiasco in Colorado. Are you kidding? Does the establishment really think they can get away with stealing an election in broad daylight?

    This statement http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...675882&usg=AFQjCNFkPVehl0iiIXgqBCFbmDpPmj6W_A
    makes it clear that their now exists a quazi war between Trump and the establishment.

    So why would this make a difference in my vote?

    It is quite simple. Like Trump says, the establishment is stealing the American people blind, they are stealing our prosperity and our freedoms. They are in fact the worst enemy of the American people...... They are also Trumps enemy, and as the old saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my ally.

    If any of you feel the same, join me and lets stand together not because we agree with each other about everything, but because the defeat of our mutual enemy benefits us all.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not sure there was some doubt that you would be voting for Trump. I won't be, but acknowledge that between Hillary and Him, he is the more desirable choice even for me based on the assumption he will be more liberal socially than he lets on. I would still prefer Bernie. I still assume I will be voting for Gary Johnson or my dog.
     
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    Am I the only one left in America who does not ask themselves what the 'establishment' wants or does not want, to determine what I want or do not want, or what I believe or do not believe?

    I don't care if an idea, policy or candidate is endorsed or opposed by 'the establishment' I look at its or his attributes, and qualities independent of this 'establishment'. The 'establishment' can be wrong about X and Z, and be right about W and Y, ya know.
     
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    I wonder if you shouldn't consider the notion that in the case of Donald Trump, all those arrayed against him -for all their faults- are correct. I would argue that Trump is suffering a myriad of self-inflicted wounds and rather than recognize his shortcomings, he is blaming everyone but himself the way only an impossibly entitled person with deep insecurities and a totally insular life can.

    Donald Trump is responsible for what comes out of his mouth.

    He is responsible for a campaign that willingly ignored delegate rules that have been established for years.

    He is responsible for a thin and porous veneer that is wearing off with regard to foreign policy, nuclear policy, domestic policy, and ultimately any kind of consistency other than one that is appallingly self-serving.

    He is nothing but a billionaire philistine. Enable your inner anarchist and vote for your dog.
     
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    If he is the Repub Nominee.....I will vote for him. As its really.....the enemy of my enemy, is still my enemy.
     
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    welcome to the team :) Have a trump plushie.

    This is the reason i like trump.
    https://tsukesthoughts.wordpress.com/2016/03/29/soul-of-the-candidates/
     
  7. Arxael

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    Wow what a surprise you mean you would support the GOP nominee? Who ever would have thought that. :roll:

    Typical con.
     
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    Yes, I am afraid you are in fact alone. The American people know quite well what the establishment wants or does not want. The establishment has a multi-decade record of accomplishments after all.

    It wants business as usual, insanely rich 1% (which includes the establishment) getting richer, shrinking middle class, exponentially growing debt and deficits, disastrous foreign policies, stupid wars ending with humiliating and idiotic withdrawals destabilizing entire regions, horrendous trade deals, laws legalizing government corruption, rules, disenfranchising voters...

    Oh and lest we forget, what the establishment does not want is change.
     
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    You're not voting for Trump. You're being an active contrarian. "For" would mean you actually agree with proposals enough for his positions to fuel your vote.
     
  10. MMC

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    Yeah I wouldn't be dumb enough to vote for Democrats that will (*)(*)(*)(*) up the Supreme Court. Imagine that.....but then I guess that's to much for the Left's Dense grey matter to filter thru.
     
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    Trump has made a ton of money playing the establishment.
    Trump loves money.

    A President Trump will do nothing to jeopardize his cash flow.
    That is the only thing you can count on.
     
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    Well....good luck with that. You will probably get the Anarchy you wish for if he wins.

    Actually....if he loses as well, his trumphumping followers will go nuts and burn everything they can
     
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    Let's not kid ourselves, elections are about the lesser evil. Either Hillary or Bernie are the lesser evil of the other, but one of those people are by far the lesser evil of Trump or Cruz. I cast my vote at the democrat caucus for one candidate, but mark my words I will vote for whoever the democratic nominee is because that person will be far less evil.


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    For some alienated from America and the Republican Party, Charles Manson might have been equally attractive.

    To give the buffoon tycoon his due, the serial polygamist has finally clued in hardcore denialists regarding the Bush's fraudulently-contrived multi-trillion dollar nation-building fiasco in Iraq, and the fact that Planned Parenthood provides essential medical services for women. No small feat. (No, not hands. Feat!)

    The League of Small-Handed Men's champion has achieved his current notoriety because of three principle factors: 1) The disenchantment with the Republican-run Congress they had been so giddy about electing, 2) The incompetence of the GOP bosses in consolidating opposition to the show business celebrity, and 3) The free-ride he has been accorded by the mass media as one of their own.

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    With a 70% unfavorable assessment by Americans, he has a more promising future in the realm of entertainment than even Sarah Palin.
     
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    People vote for whomever for tons of reason and to that person for whatever reason, that is valid to them. My wife always votes for the candidate whom she thinks looks the most presidential. Her choice and I wouldn't dream of trying to take her out of it. One of the reasons we have been married for 47 years.

    Myself, I will not be voting for either Trump or Clinton, my reason is I am sure either one would leave this country in far worst shape after either leaves office then when they entered it. For me voting for the least worst candidate among the two major parties will always leave you with a very bad winner.

    If Gary Johnson wins the Libertarian Party nomination, he will get my vote. I think he would leave this country in far better shape after he left office than when he first entered. For me he is the best choice against two people only in it for themselves, power, ego, etc. and not for the benefit of the country.

    My oldest daughter will be voting for Clinton, she views Trump as a 5th grade schoolyard bully who only whines when things don't go his way, threatening to take his football and go home if he is losing or loses a state. Besides, my oldest daughter likes voting for another woman. Completely opposite my wife who believes women have no business in politics. My son won't vote, he says it doesn't matter who wins. The politicians in Washington will do what they want to do regardless of what the people want or wish. He has a point.

    My youngest daughter is a lot like me, she hates both Trump and Clinton and she will be voting for a third party candidate. She likes the Green Party if the Green Party qualifies for the Georgia ballot. If not I suspect Johnson will get her vote.
     
  16. Lil Mike

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    Well you're not the only person in America who has asked that question, but quite simply I determined that the public policy goals of the establishment and what I think of are the best long term public policy goals for the United States are at radical odds.

    So I'm voting anti-establishment, because they've proven they're not fit to govern any longer.
     
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    Most of America's current bipartisan ruling elite are a perfect fit for Leavenworth.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know, Oprah Winfrey came from poverty to super high riches. She has earned close to half a billion dollars per year.

    So, explain to me why she is wrong to get rich. Explain who paid her so much money? Was it the rich paying her or the poor?

    This is a good case of the rich helping the poor to also get rich.
     
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    People, Folks, Country men and Country women, oh alright.....city men and city women. Lend me your ears and don't make me come and get them. [​IMG]

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    This election is to important to sit out or waste votes on those that won't win. The SCOTUS is at stake. Which will change this country around for over a decade. An a election that will be generational in scope of its affect. We have come to that moment in time.

    If any want things to change with other parties. Now is not that time. As either way you will be affected. Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Moderates, Conservatives. You already know the left will take or infringe upon all that you are about. It goes for the Indies to despite leaning left and Right.

    Any house cleaning can be done afterwards.
     
  20. Borat

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    Logical fallacy much? There is nothing wrong with getting rich, even insanely rich. There is something horribly wrong with the direction of a country when the gap between the richest 1% and the rest is growing exponentially, when the country's wealth quadruples in a matter of a few decades and yet the middle class is hurting and shrinking, when trillions of dollars are borrowed by the government and disappear in the pockets of the ruling class while the American people are stuck with the bill.
     
  21. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never. I have no idea why you asked that.

    I told you how a poor person rose through the working class, to the middle class and into the ultra rich.

    She has no patent on success.
     
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    All Trump had to do for your support is do, act and say exactly as all candidates are required to be approved of by the elite corporate media and press for the role of acting like the president? All he had to do is recite scripts given to him and he be acceptable?

    He's made terrible mistakes such as not accepting donor class money to prove he will do as he is told and speak on pre-written scripts and talking points to prove he will say what he is told to say. All he had to do is prove he is the best shill.

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    My support of Trump is my way of shooting the finger at Washington DC. Or, more accurately, shooting the finger back at them.
     
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    I owner how you feel about hillaryt.
     
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    Yeah, whatever, I am thrilled for her. I am more concerned with the fact that the median american family is working harder then ever before and is still struggling and is significantly worse off than it was several decades ago though. I am very concerned that the poorer are getting poorer and the middle class is getting smaller and poorer. But I am thrilled that Oprah Winfrey is doing great, I truly am, it's just not very high on my list of concerns.
     
  25. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The median American family is fortunate to have work. And the pay checks are not improving. See how great Obama is for this country?
     

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