I have seen threads saying pro-gun control are paranoid - Facts = Opposite is true

He who is unafraid has no need for a weapon.


The difference between rational fear and paranoia is fairly easy to discern: Facts or evidence to support the fear

Liberals would like to see SOMETHING done to curb the gun violence problem in America. Their reason for fearing gun violence is the fact that ten thousand people are victims of it every year in this country. You can't turn on the tv for a month without seeing gun violence in schools, malls, theaters, churches etc... Those are facts to support their position that we could do better.

Conservatives claim that if universal background checks are implemented or military grade weapons are banned, Obama will immediately seize all their guns! They have been claiming Obama would do this before he even entered office and began buying guns and ammo like it will cease to exist, since then.
Yet there is ZERO evidence to support their paranoia.
No guns have been seized (at least no one has asked for mine).
Machine guns were banned and the same paranoid delusions were spewed by the Right back then.
Yet other than machine guns, no guns were seized. Actually, there are still a ton of machine guns out there, they have simply had the full-auto mechanism removed. Just as an AR-15 with a 10 round magazine would still be an AR-15 and legal.
Background checks have been common in one form or another for decades and yet, there are still all these guns all over the USA. No guns seized. But lots of people who definitely shouldn't have them, stopped from getting them.

Fear without evidence = paranoia = Right view on gun control.

Yes I own a gun, btw.

 

I own an AK-47.
It was banned before, and was proposed to be banned not long ago, along with the magazines for it.
I have good reason to be paranoid about my weapon being banned.

Yes, I own a gun, btw.

 

If you want to reduce gun and every other type of criminal violence in America then gun bans aren't the answer. He who has no fear has no need to steal freedoms from others. He who is properly prepared for any eventuallity has not need to fear anything.

 

Wait. You still have your AK-47? Hmmm. Thanks for supporting my position.
So, do you take it to the movies with you?

So then you would make machine guns legal again? How about RPG's? After all, bans aren't the answer, right? This should be interesting.

 

How do you know ppl don't have bazookas?

LAPD investigating rocket launchers taken at gun buyback - latimes

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...gun-buy-back-inert-lapd-checking-origins.html

 

Oh I assume they do - but not legally. So if someone is caught in downtown Detroit with a bazooka, the police don't have to wonder whether they are a criminal. They can just make the arrest.

 

So, by your own admission here, you're scurrrrrrrred.

 

No, actually I'm not. I was trained at Pendleton. I don't carry a gun outside the home. But I have a beautiful wife and 16 year old daughter who have both been taught how to handle a weapon if someone breaks in. Fail.

 

How insane would I be if I claimed a screwdriver was intrinsic to my freedom?

Your argument, it has no legs.

He who is properly trained for any eventuality is a professional and they screw up often enough. Most gun owners are rank amateurs with delusions of competence.

 

I'm sorry, sir, but that's all completely irrelevant.

Because you still posted this.....

And this....

In the exact same post.

Thus whether you meant to or not, you unwittingly called yourself afraid. Because you admitted to possessing weapons which you claim that only those who are afraid have a need for. Do you see the problem here?

I often use the phrase "shooting oneself in the foot" as a metaphor, but your post here has been quite humorously literal.

 

You mean the gun violence that has steadily been declining for decades?

No, they don't. I thought you were an honest centrist type?

 

No, that would be me. I support you right to a gun, but not your right to unlimited property.

 

Ah. So you don't have the intellectual capacity to discern the difference. Got it. Having seen your other posts, I do not find this surprising. Okay, let me try to dumb it down SO much, even you might be able to understand (not holding my breath though).

There is a difference between common sense measures for defense of a home and the paranoia that drives some whackjob to feel so afraid of feels so inadequate about his manhood, he thinks he needs the right to carry an AR-15 or even a pistol everywhere he goes.
If someone breaks into my home, they are displaying criminal intent right then and there. I (or my wife and daughter) have a perfectly reasonable right to defend ourselves. This is not walking into bars or following people in the neighborhood with a gun. It is defense only - which is supposedly the purpose of a gun.
When someone goes to a bar, theater, church or whatever and they're packing, this displays the fear that the entire world around them is out to get them or at least, might be. And they are so afraid, they can't go anywhere unarmed. Or they have deep-seeded feelings of weakness and inferiority and need to compensate for this with a weapon.

BTW, I don't walk around the house with the Glock on my hip. It is rarely out of its case. But again, if my daughter hears someone breaking in, it's within quick access and she has been trained on how to handle it safely and properly - something which is not required in this country because there are so many stupid people who feel this would be "infringing" on their rights. Absurd.

 

Of course not, why would I? I also fail to see how having a weapon that was once banned and recently survived another attempt to ban it somehow means no one is trying to take such weapons away, it actually indicates the complete opposite. What is the point of banning a weapon/item if you still let everyone have it? Never mind that fact that a gun ban is a defacto gun grab against would be future buyers of such weapons.

Machine guns are legal. As for RPGs I doubt them being legal would have much of an impact on things being that they would likely be very expensive.

 

Why do you need an AK-47? I can think of no reason whatsoever any civilian would need a full auto assault rifle, and they ARE illegal. Any full auto weapons is illegal in the US, not just machine guns.

 

Please tell us WHAT military grade weapons???? The only people I see with military grade weapons are people that have a Class C license are own them LEGALLY!!!!

"""No guns have been seized"""

Oh, really???

http://www.infowars.com/new-york-state-police-admit-wrongly-confiscating-guns-under-new-laws/
New York State Police Admit Wrongly Confiscating Guns Under New Laws


Steve Watson
Infowars.com
April 11, 2013



http://www.infowars.com/police-confiscate-mans-guns-over-sons-water-pistol-threat/

Police Confiscate Man’s Guns Over Son’s Water Pistol Threat

Latest example of anti-Second Amendment hysteria reaches new level of absurdity

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
April 9, 2013

http://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/new-york-gun-confiscation-underway/
Monday, April 08, 2013

NY Gun Confiscation Underway – Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol Owner ID & Firearms

Your turn!

 

After many posts, that thought never occurred to me.

 

Hey, Dag, do you even know how the majority of AK-47s in this country function??? And those that own a full auto AK have a Class C license to own it which is LEGAL!!!! And, Dag, go look it up, a CIVIAN CAN OWN A MACHINE GUN IF HE?SHE HAS A CLASS C LICENSE!!! Where in God's name have you been hiding all your young life???

 

Hey, Nop, have you ever been shot at??? I have. I have been shot at 5 times in my life with nothing to shoot back with. It's not going to happen again.

 

One it's not fully automatic, it's a Romanian POS semi-auto.
Two I don't care if you don't think I need one, I own it.
Three fully automatic weapons are legal in the US, look it up. They are expensive though I will say that, and that's not even the cost of ammo!

 

And I have a beautiful wife and 6 daughters, 25 grandchildren. and 10 great grandchildren, so what??? I was trained from the time I was 7 years old to use a gun and now have 60 years of experience under my belt. I have a multitude of weapons which isn't anybody's business but mine. They were all obtained legally, they are ALL legal firearms including the MAC-90. So what's your point???

 

The only guns I own is a Glock 22, which I have a carry conceal permit for, and I wear it on a holster on my jacket. I have it because I live in a bad neighborhood. I also own a hunting shotgun, which I use for deer hunting. I wish I could use a rifle instead of a shotgun, but deer hunting with rifles is illegal in Indiana. I have no need for any other weapons.

 

Spot on, all counts.

 

What do they want you to use, shotgun slugs? What's the thinking behind a law like that?

 

I didn't look at many posts. :/

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I didn't look at many posts. :/