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I just want to remind gun supporters of Trumps Stance on guns

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Joe knows, Dec 16, 2023.

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  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    We already saw it in Pennsylvania with Fetterman.
     
    gfm7175, Dec 19, 2023
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    reminds me of the Ramones song Lobotomy
     
    Turtledude, Dec 19, 2023
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    Generally I would say say any GOP candidate over Biden, but considering Colorado, Trump now has my vote, if he is no on the ballot, then as a write-in. Largest write In-election in history?
     
    An Taibhse, Dec 20, 2023
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    I've always taken that position in the past, until Trump became President and I saw how the RNC has also fought against the "America First / MAGA" movement tooth and nail. Now, I have a MAGA vs Uniparty mindset to the way that I approach voting.

    I'm done voting for corrupt "professional" Republicans simply because they might "slow down" the speed of the continued advancement of the destructive leftist ideology. I'm now only voting for people who are willing to actually STOP the advancement of said leftist ideology and then ADVANCE the orderly conservative ideology. It's time to start playing offense. --- If there are no America First people to choose from, then I'll either write in their name or just stay home. Between the tyrannical lawless Satanic commie Democrats and the paid-off-by-said-commies Republicans, I'm left with nobody who actually represents ME. For President, Trump is the only candidate who represents my interests. Haley seems to be running for President of Israel instead of THIS nation, wants to war-monger, and doesn't want to allow me to be anonymous on the internet... DeSantis is suuuuuch a whiny robotic stiff whenever he speaks, and is advised/controlled/funded/promoted by a lot of very nasty people... Krispy Kreme seems more concerned about his next buffet dinner than anything else...

    BINGO. TPTB don't get to interfere in elections like that.
     
    gfm7175, Dec 20, 2023
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  5. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    So you are okay with voting for a dictatorship style gun grabber? As a very abide gun owner I fail to see how this furthers our goals of legal gun ownership.
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2023
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    who do you think the choices will be in the next Presidential election

    calling Trump a dictatorship style gun grabber is pretty silly IMHO his justices are doing far more to protect the second amendment than Biden's
     
    Turtledude, Dec 21, 2023
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    What makes you believe that Trump is a "dictatorship style gun grabber"? I grant you that he was weak on bump stocks, and that he isn't as strong of a defender of the 2nd amendment as I would prefer, but I see no reason to believe that he's going to "in a dictator fashion" come after my guns [as I fear that a 2nd-term Biden would do, as I've already seen a 1st-term Biden weaponize OSHA to try to force a good chunk of the country to get mRNA-jabbed against their will].

    I fail to see how Biden furthers it... or Newsom furthers it... or Kamala furthers it... or DeSantis furthers it... or Haley furthers it... or Christie furthers it... or RFK Jr furthers it...
     
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    the courts is where the second amendment will live or die. blue states have proven they don't care about the constitution when it comes to guns. States full of public teat sucklers and those who see gun owners as their enemies (ie the alphabet agenda, the abortion rights lobby, and ever other group that sees middle class Christian white males as their political opponents) will be ripe for politicians to push gun bans to pander to those groups.

    Trump has proven that his judicial picks are far better than the clinton/biden/Obama picks when it comes to the second amendment.
     
    Turtledude, Dec 21, 2023
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    Silly? He literally made thousands of people destroy or turn in their own property (confiscated it) with the stroke of a pen. No congress, no house hearings, no debate from representatives…. A strike of a pen. Yes that’s a dictator. The first confiscation in American history that was gun related and you want to vote for the guy?


    think about this, Biden tried to ban the pistol brace, but at least he gave you a pathway to keep it. Trump was a confiscation or destruction.
     
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    He’s a dictator because he did it with no congressional pathways. He done it with the stroke of a pen. Not only did he do it with a stroke of a pen he literally single handedly performed the first confiscation or destruction order for anything gun related in American history.

    think about this, Biden tried to ban the pistol brace, but at least he gave you a pathway to keep it. Trump was a confiscation or destruction.
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2023
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    what bump stocks? tell me what sort of response would you have received if Hilary had been president when Las Vegas/Paddock shooting went down.

    tell me how the Trump justices voted on BRUEN
     
    Turtledude, Dec 21, 2023
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    Biden wanted to ban the guns they go on. he just doesnt have the votes. and the courts have given you the pathway. Let me guess, you owned a bumpstockj and hence the unreasoned bitterness
     
    Turtledude, Dec 21, 2023
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    Unreasoned? Yes I owned one so I came out with facts and now I’m unreasoned? Is anything I say false? Was it not the first gun related confiscation or destruction order in American history? Was it not done by executive fiat? Did anyone in congress vote for it? It was a dictatorial type of enforcement. What did I say that was false or unreasoned? I think it’s unreasoned to call yourself a gun supporter while supporting politicians that want gun control.
     
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    If Hillary were in the Republican base would have fought it rather than support it.
     
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    Primaries are well before that. If Trump does not win the primaries, then either Haley or DeSantis are guaranteed winners, because Biden can beat only one person: Trump, and only because people would vote against Trump.

    His followers don't worry too much about his political positions. He tickles their ears and they love him for it, and will vote for him no matter what.

    He knows it.

    "I could ‘shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters" - Trump
     
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    Pro_Line_FL, Dec 21, 2023
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    I agree that Aussies shouldn't own guns.
     
    Doofenshmirtz, Dec 21, 2023
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    They don't count write-ins.
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Dec 21, 2023
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    Yep! We are fine with that

    we have a fraction of your murder/ suicide rate so………
     
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    And there are places with higher murder/suicide rates where guns are banned.
     
    Doofenshmirtz, Dec 21, 2023
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    Name them - and don’t bother with Mexico as the ban is primarily on the sale which is neatly circumvented by the massive smuggling operation from the USA
     
    Bowerbird, Dec 21, 2023
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    Why would anyone bother wasting the time since you're already moving the goal post before the answer even comes in?
     
    FatBack, Dec 21, 2023
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    I believe Honduras has the highest murder rate. Suicide is a sad problem, but misery does not come from a gun.
     
    Doofenshmirtz, Dec 21, 2023
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    Oh so you want to name them yet want to limit the countries in which we name? Are you kidding me
     
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    You could argue the Mexico point if you like but the contention is still open and not supported
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Honduras
     
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