I would gladly trade gay marriage and capital punishment to end abortion

No, I am just pointing out reality as evidenced by the fact that you still can not support anything you say or refute anything I say.

 

Of course what you mean is to end legal abortion. Right? That, however will not end abortion. It will just mean that women will bleed to death with coat hangers in them, or have their insides burned out with chemicals. It will just mean that those who can afford it will be able to seek out a reasonably reputable and capable abortionist and those who can't will either get the back ally treatment, or wind up with an unwanted child that they are unable to care for financially or emotionally, who will wind up neglected or abused and eventually in foster care and later prison.

I don't like abortion either. I've experienced it and it is not good for anybody, But as a liberal, I see it as a necessary evil that can't be totally eliminated. I do think that it can and should be minimized by meaningful sex education, the availability of birth control, and supporting you people in a way that they feel good about themselves and their future. We can also minimize abortion by assuring people that if they carry that child to term we as a society and a nation will be there for them with financial aid like food stamps and other nutritional programs, with affordable pre school and day care programs, with housing assistance.

Too many pro life people are not really pro life but rather pro fetus. When it comes to prevention of pregnancy or programs for families with children they get stupid real fast. Real pro life people I can respect even if I don't agree with them. Pro fetus types? Little if any. So which are you? Pro life of pro fetus? Given you offer to trade the death penalty (In other words abolish it-right?) for an end to abortion, I'm going to guess that you're pro fetus. True pro life people would be against the death penalty. Please correct me if I'm wrong. As far as same sex marriage goes, your not holding a lot of cards there. That war is lost and you have no chips left.

 

well, we can give you up.........

 

What a highly inspirational, relevant and BS response.

 

Nice hand... but I feel like you've got Crazy Republican up your sleeve.

 

It is now 2015 and the U.S. Supreme Court has declared Gay Marriage to be the law of the land, so, Gay Marriage does not have to be given up.

 

you don't need to have an abortion today, you have always had the choice..... thus pro-choice

now if you mean you would give up those items to force others to let you choose for them, then no, no one is going to take you up on that

gay marriage, legal
capital punishment, most states already ban it
abortion, legal

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