Identifying American liberals

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  1. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    The enclosed article in two parts looks at “my liberals” in a different light.

    My liberals are also known as limousine liberals, not because they all get around town in limousines, but because they dabble at defending the unwashed, the unloved, and the unappreciative.

    My liberals regard the 1920s and ‘30s as the era of Camelot; home to the wittiest, the most brilliant, the most creative people ever assembled at the same time.

    My liberals have a spiritual affinity with the Algonquin Hotel.

    My liberals are convinced that the departed communicants who frequented the Algonquin Round Table said more of importance than did the host of the Last Supper and his quests.

    My liberals seldom leave Baghdad on the Hudson; whenever they do go abroad for business or pleasure they pine for Manhattan as Count Dracula longs to sleep in his native soil.

    My liberals tolerate equals visiting Manhattan while holding them in contempt the second they leave.

    My liberals will never rest until every human being on the planet accepts the printing press as the second most important invention of all time; finishing just behind the wheel.

    How do I know all of this since I never palled around with my liberals? Easy answer: All of my adult life, I have been inundated by the importance my liberals assigned to themselves, their opinions, and their worldview. I arrived at my conclusions from what my liberals have said over many decades in newspapers, in magazines, in movies, and on the radio and television. Everything from the “theater” to the Metropolitan Opera, to the fawning over the author of the latest book that nobody except liberals ever reads, or the latest stage play that 99.9999% of Americans would not go see if they had the opportunity.

    One way or another, the rest of us hear about those authors, books, and plays just to make sure that we do not miss something important. I will bet you that two-hundred million Americans know the names of every liberal author who ever lived. I will also bet you that not more than a minute number of Americans ever read books written by liberal authors. Yet talking about liberal authors, living and dead, is standard repartee for my liberals. I can understand the reason for the talk when it is a sales pitch. My guess is that they always talk about the same things when they are talking to each other.

    Liberalism is like a soap opera; a liberal can go into a thirty year coma and upon waking will not have missed a thing.

    And then there is the publishing industry itself. The entire liberal community in America orbits around the liberals in publishing. Liberals in the hinterland hold a janitor at the New York Times in higher esteem than Mother Teresa. Publishing is the turkey, everything else is the trimmings.

    Do not rush to label me a book burner because I am not knocking books per se. I read books and usually enjoy what I read.


    February 29, 2012
    A Guide to the Liberal Mind
    By Victor Volsky

    As a great fan of Jeff Foxworthy, it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to use his hilarious you-might-be-a-redneck comedy routine in an attempt to characterize the liberal mindset (tweaking Jeff's formula a bit to convert it from the suppositional to the unconditional). So, with apologies to the wonderful country comedian, here are some of the notable features of the liberal's mental landscape:

    ∙ If you believe that freedom of expression is sacrosanct but would like nothing better than to deny it to anyone who doesn't share your views, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that the 1st Amendment separates church from state, but not state from church, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that the 2nd Amendment was the founding fathers' big mistake and that the 10th Amendment shouldn't be taken seriously, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that endlessly discussing a problem amounts to actually solving it, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that the results of progressive programs are irrelevant and that only good intentions count, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that Mark Foley, who wrote salacious e-mails to a young but legally adult congressional page, was an evil libertine, while Gerry Studds, who had sex with an underage congressional page, was a knight in shining armor, you are a liberal intellectual.
    ∙ If you believe that Obama is an intellectual giant whose IQ is off the charts even though you have no idea what his IQ actually is, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that a decades-old drunk-driving episode in George W. Bush's biography comes under the "people's right to know" doctrine while the entire past of Barack Obama is protected by his right to privacy, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that we can spend and borrow our way out of the recession in keeping with the thoroughly discredited Keynesian model, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that taxpayers don't change their behavior when the government tries to squeeze more tax money out of them, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that Americans are undertaxed, while carefully hiding your own money in offshore tax shelters, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe, with Nancy Pelosi and Valerie Jarrett, that unemployment benefits are a boon to the economy (but without taking this brilliant insight to its logical conclusion: that the path to unprecedented prosperity lies through 100% unemployment), you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that affirmative action improves the lot of poor minorities rather than miring them in perpetual misery and dependence, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty failed because not enough money (a trifling $16 trillion) was spent on it, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that God's middle name is Kennedy, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that Jimmy Carter, who has been working indefatigably over the last three decades to subvert his country's foreign policy, is the best ex-president ever, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that the Fox News Channel is the modern-day equivalent of Völkischer Beobachter and The New York Times a light unto the world, and whatever the Times publishes is God-given truth while whatever it deems unfit to print doesn't deserve to be known, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you angrily castigate your compatriots for being profligate with their energy consumption while generously allowing yourself to use more than 20 times as much energy as a regular household (see Gore, Al), you are a liberal.
     
  2. Flanders

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    PART TWO:

    ∙ If you believe that your choice of a car affects the planet's climate while sunspot activity doesn't, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you are notoriously stingy with personal charitable giving but deliriously generous with other people's money while proudly posing as the true benefactor of the poor, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that human nature is infinitely malleable and that nurture easily trumps nature, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that your women's studies degree is superior to a Ph.D. in engineering, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that the anarchists, hoodlums, and hobos who make up the Occupy movement are noble idealists who truly represent the 99 percent of America while the Tea Partiers are Nazi troglodytes and of course racists, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that perjury is not a crime if it is about sex, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that Bill Clinton defended the Constitution as he repeatedly perjured himself, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that Hillary's rather primitive bribery scheme with cattle futures was so complicated as to be beyond human comprehension and thus ought to be shoved into the memory hole, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that Chuck Colson, who served seven months behind bars for procuring a single FBI file, got away with murder, but the Clintons, who demanded from the FBI some 900 files, were defenseless lambs relentlessly persecuted by cruel Republicans, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that the mountains of corpses and rivers of blood that have been the chief result of all communist "experiments" are merely collateral damage, a possibly regrettable but unavoidable byproduct of the high-minded attempts to build paradise on earth and thus nothing to talk about, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that Alger Hiss or Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were innocent victims of McCarthyism, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If, to reinforce your salon cred, you bedeck your infant in a T-shirt bearing the likeness of that murderous sadist, Che Guevara, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe, against plentiful historical evidence to the contrary, that appeasement works and that America's unilateral disarmament will surely mollify enemies by demonstrating our peaceful intentions and shame them into following our example, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that negotiations are the be-all and end-all of international relations and that as long as our adversaries deign to talk to us, everything is fine and dandy, even if they clearly use the negotiations as a smokescreen to pursue their nefarious schemes unmolested, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that the Palestinians sincerely want an accommodation with Israel and that only the stiff-necked Jews' obduracy stands in the way of Middle East peaceful settlement, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that all cultures are equal but that Western culture is less equal than the others, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that a crucifix immersed in the "artist's" urine or a bucket of paint splashed onto a canvas is genuine art, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that a murderous hoodlum is not really guilty because he grew up in a tough neighborhood and that "judgmentalism" is really the only crime deserving of opprobrium, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you reflexively sympathize with the criminal while scornfully ignoring the crime victim, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that Bill Maher is indeed politically incorrect and Warren Buffet is dying to pay more taxes, you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you love the "people" but despise the "populace," you are a liberal.
    ∙ If you believe that you and your ilk will be able to fool the American people indefinitely...well, you may have a point there.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2012/02/a_guide_to_the_liberal_mind.html
     
  3. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol @ all the right-wingers lately trying desperately to label liberals. To tell us what we thing and who we are.
     
  4. Mr_Truth

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    If you laugh at a Black victim of police brutality crimes and selective enforcement of the law, that makes you a CONservative.


    Correction: that would make you a conservative especially when it involves church sexual abuse of children.

    That would make you a member of the Faux CONservative network.


    Correction: that would make a RepubliCON as it was this party that financed Bolsehvism (see CONSERVATIVE Anthony Sutton's books).


    IF YOU BELIEVE CORPORATE WELFARE IS A GOD GIVEN RIGHT
    IF YOU BELIEVE INVADING FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND KILLING MUSLIMS IS A GOD ORDAINED DUTY & PRIVILEGE
    IF YOU BELIEVE MUSLIMS ARE SATANIC INFIDELS
    IF YOU BELIEVE KEYNESIAN ECONOMICS IS GOOD BUT ONLY WHEN A REPUKEBLICAN IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE
    IF YOU DEFEND CHICKENHAWKS


    THEN YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE!

    AND THAT IS THE TRUTH!
     
  5. The Third Man

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    The Liberals are the ones with the brains in America,that is how you identify them. The others running around mumbling Muslims,Obama's birth cert and Mexicans are the nutty right.
     
  6. Flanders

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    To toddwv, Mr_Truth, & The Third Man: Okay, you guys don’t like conservatives defining liberals; so how about taking a look at the things liberals and conservatives do?

    20 Obvious Truths That Will Shock Liberals
    John Hawkins
    Mar 2, 2012

    1) The Founding Fathers were generally religious, gun-toting small government fanatics who were so far to the Right that they'd make Ann Coulter look like Jimmy Carter.

    2) The greatest evil this country has ever committed isn't slavery; it's killing more than 50 million innocent children via abortion.

    3) Conservatives are much more compassionate than liberals and all you have to do to prove it is look at all the studies showing that conservatives give more of their money to charity than liberals do.

    4) When the Founding Fathers were actually around, there were official state religions and the Bible was used as a textbook in schools. The so-called "wall of separation between church and state" has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution and everything to do with liberal hostility to Christianity.

    5) The biggest problem with our economy today is Barack Obama. His demonization of successful people, his driving up gas prices, his regulatory overload and threats to increase taxes have terrified businesses into hunkering down, refusing to spend money, and declining to hire new people. Replacing him would do more than any government policy to spur economic growth.

    6) Not only are conservatives more patriotic than liberals, but most American liberals "love" America in about the same way that a wife-beater loves his wife.

    7) Out of every 100 cries of “Racism” you hear these days, 99 are motivated by nothing other than politics.

    8) Anyone paying income taxes is certainly paying his “fair share" -- and then some -- compared to the people who pay nothing.

    9) You don't have a "right" to anything that other people have to pay to provide for you.

    10) If we can ask people to present an ID to buy alcohol, drive a car, or get on an airplane, then asking them to present identification to vote is a no-brainer.

    11) There's absolutely nothing that the government does smarter, better, or more efficiently than the private market with roughly equivalent resources.

    12) The biggest problem with education in this country is liberals. They fight vouchers, oppose merit pay, refuse to get rid of terrible teachers, and bend over backwards to keep poor kids trapped in failing schools.

    13) Fascism, socialism, and communism are all left-wing movements that have considerably more in common with modern liberalism than modern conservatism.

    14) The Democratic Party was behind slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow laws. It was also the party of Margaret Sanger, George Wallace, and Bull Connor. It has ALWAYS been a racist party. Even today, white liberals support Affirmative Action and racial set-asides because they still believe black Americans are too inferior to go up against whites on an even playing field.

    15) A man with good morals who falls short and becomes a hypocrite is still a far better man than a liberal who can never be called a hypocrite because he has no morals at all.

    16) The most dire threat to America's future and prosperity in the last 150 years hasn't been the Nazis, the Soviets, or Al-Qaeda;, it's the spending and overreach of our own government.

    17) Greed isn't someone wanting to keep more of what he earns; it's people demanding a greater share of money that someone else earns.

    18) Most of the time in American politics, the liberal "victim" is really a bad guy who is absolutely delighted by the opportunity to pretend to be "offended."

    19) Jesus Christ was not a conservative, a liberal, or a politician. He was also not a capitalist or a socialist. Still, you can say this: Jesus drew sharp lines about what's right and wrong, he wasn't tolerant of what the Bible categorizes as sinful behavior, and there's absolutely no question that he would adamantly oppose abortion and gay marriage.

    20) When you demand that other people fund your sexual escapades by buying your contraception, your sex life becomes their business.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2012/03/02/20_obvious_truths_that_will_shock_liberals
     
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    Your definition of Liberals is more a definition of who you are and a testimony of your dislikes and hatred. I would rather be motivated by social responsibility than personal greed and animosity so that makes me a Liberal. There were times in this nation where the differences between Conservatives and Liberals were just as sharp but not as contentious, when both sides believed that the motivation of the other was for the betterment of the Nation. Continued spewing of hate and polarization is a characterization of personal irresponsibility and inhibits the solving of the issues.
     
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    It is well known that the extreme right labels anything and anybody that they don't agree with as "liberal".

    Your list is full of so many fallacies, 1/2 truths and outright distortions that it's not even worth addressing with anything short of derision.
     
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    To clarkatticus: I see you are still talking in circles. As I told you in #31 permalink in this thread:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/elections-campaigns/217593-bachmann-nails.html

    “You sound like the chief of police.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-31Jev252yA

    To clarkatticus: No kidding! The same applies to liberals who define themselves when they define non-liberals.

    To clarkatticus: There you go defining yourself. According to you liberals are socially responsible while everybody else is greedy and full of animosity. Naturally, socially responsible includes infanticide, socialized medicine, euthanasia, death panels, multiculturalism, and all of the horrors totalitarian government breeds. The sickest expression of liberalism is when liberals insist their worldview is moral.

    To clarkatticus: Progressives/liberals never had the country’s well-being in mind. Not in the early 20th century and not today. First and foremost they implemented the XVI Amendment so they could feed at the public trough. Now, they seek to establish a worldwide parasite class funded by taxes.

    Note that every one of liberalism’s “positive” Rights requires tax dollar funding. Liberals seek a world where there is no place for the “negative” Rights in our Bill of Rights, nor is there room in their world for American independence.


    To clarkatticus: It was not speaking out against liberals and everything they stand for that began the polarization in this country —— it is oppressive government and liberalism’s misuse of government in order to implement their sick ideology that finished polarizing this country.

    Just for the record, hating liberals is just as noble as is hating the most violent criminals enough to want to stop them; whereas, the hatred liberals spout stops individual liberties.


    To clarkatticus: Driving the parasites away from the public trough with limited government is the way to solve the issues.

    Finally, just look at the violence liberals turn to when their spot at trough is threatened if you want to see personal irresponsibility.
     
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    The main thing you guys think is America is forever tainted by it's Racist Bigoted Homophobic Imperialist Colonialist Past .
     
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    I am always reminded of a youtube clip of woodstock with this subject. Half naked liberals dancing to hendrix, twirling around on a high from the happy drugs until they fall in the mud. Happy and contented.

    Now that is a real 'liberal'
     
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    Not much I can do to respond to that. Conservatives won't take responsibility for causing any of the current crisis and are not smart enough to fix it, they just point fingers. Time will prove the liberal view. We were the one's who gave women the right to vote, started SS, Medicare, Civil rights act, disability, unemployment insurance, food and drug safety, clean air act, and the new Health care plan. The conservatives fought every one. Go ahead and live in your cave, I predict a great Liberal future for America.
     
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    A Detroit Future or California Future for the Entire Country ?
     
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    You can't afford it. The dollar is on the verge of collapse due to all the progressive programs and the ever growing percentage of Americans (now over 60%) who rely on strangers for some or all their income and produce nothing. As for the right to vote for women, did you give them the privilege of voting, like a progressive, or did you assist in removing barriers to liberty like a liberal? Your rhetoric says a lot about your belief that they don't have the right to participate, just the privilege, which can be taken away if found necessary to the progressive cause.

    The liberal future for the US is long over. It's now a progressive totalitarian future. Unless liberals take it back. I suspect that you would find such a maneuver very upsetting.
     
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    The liberals are the ones with scandals and corruption like fast and furious and solyndra
     
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    To clarkatticus: But you tried anyway.

    To clarkatticus: Wonderful logic. You want conservatives to take responsibility for the problems liberals caused!

    To clarkatticus: Like it did in the Soviet Union and everywhere else it is put in practice?

    To clarkatticus: And what did liberal women do with it? The ones in Hussein’s administration are bigger butchers than you’ll find in any foreign totalitarian country dominated by men.

    To clarkatticus: Then liberals looted the fund to enrich liberal parasites throughout the federal bureaucracies.

    To clarkatticus: A program that is so corrupt it threatens to bring down the country.

    To clarkatticus: Oh yeah! That was a good one. It took liberties away from the majority so it could give special privileges to a minority.

    To clarkatticus: I am not sure what that means. Don’t tell me. The rest of your convoluted views are enough for today.

    To clarkatticus: Another winner created by liberals at the expense of a stable dollar.

    To clarkatticus: Conservatives want more food safety. They do not want the drug culture that liberals mean by “drug safety.”

    To clarkatticus: Great! You may not realize it, but you’re bragging about the EPA enforcing a United Nations power grab, not to mention the fact that the fraud has been exposed.

    To clarkatticus: Do you know that a majority of Americans want SOCIALIZED MEDICINE repealed?

    To clarkatticus: Thank you. You just proved that conservatives should not take responsibility for the problems liberals caused.

    To clarkatticus: And I predict liberalism will disappear within the next two generations.
     
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    Hate all you want, the Liberal/Progressive ideology has been and will be the future of America. More bad news for you, eventually there will be single payer health insurance, eventually there will be a path to citizenship for illegals and many financial and mortgage lenders will be prosecuted with the result of more regulation to that industry. The good side is that you will continue to live, the nation will recover and the goofy tirades and doom and gloom predictions you make will be even more laughable then.
     
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    To clarkatticus:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9U_C_q6WcU&feature=player_embedded"]Don't you believe it! - YouTube[/ame]

    And this:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4&feature=player_detailpage"]Porky Pig Cartoon Ending "That's All Folks!" - YouTube[/ame]
     

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