If Biden Steps Aside, Who Is Kamala's Running Mate?

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If Biden Steps Aside, Who Is Kamala's Running Mate?

Poll closed Nov 6, 2024.
  1. Gretchen Whitmer

    1 vote(s)
    9.1%
  2. Amy Klobuchar

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Elizabeth Warren

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Pete Buttigieg

    6 vote(s)
    54.5%
  5. Gavin Newsom

    2 vote(s)
    18.2%
  6. Josh Shapiro

    2 vote(s)
    18.2%
  7. Jared Polis

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Raphael Warnock

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I am an immigrant and a citizen so why are you opposed to me being counted in a census? Are you also opposed to me voting and working as an election official?
     
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    So you are an American now. As a US citizen, what is your immigration status?
     
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    I have been an American citizen for over 55 years. I am an immigrant, legal of course who became a citizen. Legal immigrants can become citizens after five years from the date of their immigration and be at least 18 years old.The process of becoming a citizen and being granted citizenship changes one’s status from a legal
    permanent resident alien to a Naturalized American citizen. It does not change the fact that you immigrated into the U.S. after being born elsewhere. You have all the rights of an American citizen who was born here EXCEPT the right to become president or vice president.

    Are you confusing an immigrant with an illegal? I think you are. Illegals are not immigrants they are criminals who committed illegal entry. It pizzed me off that some people call those criminals “immigrants”. If someone comes here and claims refugee status they need to inform the border authorities and not sneak in. Those people who report themselves as refugees need to go through a vetting process and if they are truly refugees they can become a
    permanent resident alien. If you sneak in you are an illegal entrant e.g. a criminal. In my opinion any illegal entrant should forever forfeit the right to become a legal resident alien. This is where our “immigration “ process is an utter failure. Both parties are guilty of not fixing it.
     
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    Sorry, I view immigrants who have their citizenship, as legal citizens and not immigrants in the same way that my adopted daughter is legally my daughter.

    Under the natural the rules of the universe, she isn't my daughter, and you are still an immigrant but legally you are treated and recognized as a citizen just as legally my daughter is recognized and treated as my daughter.

    In any case, my point was that permanent residents are given no vote but are counted toward the number of electors. This is also true for criminal aliens.

    So for example, if you have an area that has one citizen and 29,999 non-citizens. That gives that ares an representative and an elector. Of course this changes with apportionment as the population of the United States grows. But basically that one citizens vote would solely decide the representative that gets elected and how the elector votes in presidential elections. This is because non-citizens are counted in the census that determines how many representatives are dished out but non-citizens cannot vote.

    So criminal aliens don't vote, but neither do their need to, in order to benefit democrats. Simply incentivesing criminal aliens into your state elevates your representation and makes your votes over represented per citizen. Its like printing ballots for illegal and permanent residents but then you get to vote for them.

    Democrats know what they are doing but also are taking advantage of the fact that most people don't actually understand how our election system works. That's dishonest and far from fair.
     
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    Trump had his day in court (I believe it was 63 election challenges). But the Sore Loser had to organize a “Stop the Steal” rally. In other words - LIE to the world about election fraud.

    And about the “few who were violent”, consider this. After the violence started, Trump tweeted that Mike Pence didn’t come through. Was that tweet meant to pacify the insurgents?

    By that time (mid December thru 1/6), he was literally a madman. That MADNESS will resurface. No doubt about it.
     
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    I don't see an issue with the tweet. Except that I disagree with it. Nothing Trump said condoned or promoted violence and the timing was too close to the incident to know if he was aware or not.
    Besides which he isn't obligated to do anything other than provide the National Gaurd which he did. And also sent several messages to stop which is more than most leaders do when a riot occurs. Kamala even bailed out violent protestors who then committed more crimes after they were freed.
    Trump, meanwhile, gets a bad rap for promising to pardon the non violent grandmas who went on a Capitol tour when the doors opened for them and the police waved them by.

    But I get it. Trump is the sin of the world and if I do wrong it's because of him. He is my daddy and the Supreme leader and king of all that has or will happen in the universe.
     
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    Glad we can agree on that last paragraph.
     
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    I think Gavin Newsome is completely out of the picture. The 12th Amendment to the Constitution states that if a President and a Vice-President are from the same state, then that states Electoral College votes for the President-Vice President ticket will not count. Since Kamala Harris is down something like 210 to 330 in the electoral college according to the latest polls already, there is no way Kamala Harris can toss away California's 54 electoral college votes.
     
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    Interesting. I didn't realize this was a criteria, but after looking at the Amendment, I believe you are correct.
     
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    It can happen on a rare occasion.
     

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