If JFK had lived, the US would be the most beloved and respected Nation in the World.

you could not be more wrong than possible in that last sentence.

 

I have read that book the kennedy detail and it has some truths mixed in with lies and propagana.Its mostly pure b.s all propped up by the government since the 50th anniversary is around the corner soon.

 

still another that has fallen for the lies and propaganda of the warren commission and corporate cortolled media that oswald was the assassin.Got news for ya.Oswald was EXACTLY what he said he was,a patsy.obviously you have never heard an oppossing view to the fairy tale warren commssion report.

 

I agree.

Legacy-wise, it was the best thing to happen to Camelot.

By the way is the original poster trying to stir publicity for Stephen King's new book?

 

Given enough time, he'd have been sitting in a congressional hearing saying "I did not have sex with that woman!"
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Heck yeah was one of the greatest.you are badly misinformed.Kennedy inherited vietnam form Eisenhower.As I have said a million times,he never sent in combat troops.He only sent in advisors.thats a well known fact many people here seem ignorant of.He alienated the establishment with his dont ask what your country can do for you,what you can do for your country because he was in the process of returning us to the constituion of the united states where the PEOPLE had control of the government,not all these corporations that do now and as i said,he was lied to about the bay of pigs from the very get go by the CIA.

As I have proved MANY times in my posts here,it was LBJ who created vietnam,not kennedy.wake up.LBJ's and kennedy policys were NOTHING alike.two days after his assassination.LBJ reversed kennedys policy for a complete withdrawal by 1965. If not for kennedys actions,the civil rights program never would have got started and as I said before,it was Bobby that allowed the corrupt FBI under Hoover to harras MLK and others and thats because he was blackmailed by him.

Thats why they needed to get rid of him and why Hoover participated in the coverup of his assassination as well as Johnson because he was going to make Hoover retire under the standard age requirment of 65.No way would he have stayed on if he had been reeleced which he easily would have.He was also going to dump Hoovers buddy Johnson from the ticket if reelected.They both benifitted and had everything to gain from his assassination.It was johnson that handpicked everybody for the warren commission which was not an independent investigation at all.It was a PRESIDENTIAL investigation. You all have been seriosuly misinformed of the true facts obviously.

 

This brilliant quote from John Kennedy might wake the liberals and hard-Leftists in our group up!

"A bill will be presented to the Congress for action next year. It will include an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in both corporate and personal income taxes. It will include long-needed tax reform that logic and equity demand ... The billions of dollars this bill will place in the hands of the consumer and our businessmen will have both immediate and permanent benefits to our economy. Every dollar released from taxation that is spent or invested will help create a new job and a new salary. And these new jobs and new salaries can create other jobs and other salaries and more and more growth for an expanding American economy.
"
– John F. Kennedy, Aug. 13, 1962, radio and television report on the state of the national economy

 

This is all very interesting, 9/11 was an inside job.

Do you have reliable references for these interesting assertions you have made?

I would love to see them.

 

Your source please?

That is not the official version and, if I am not mistaken, there is a paper trail showing that Kennedy initiated the Turkey expansion.

And you leave out the Bay of Pigs.

 

Anyone can see JFK got a shot from in front. And I hunt, so I know more about guns than the average person.

I think Oswald got in at least one shot, and missed the second. I think someone else shot from in front because I know guns well and JFK's head snapped backward on the kill shot. I think Oswald was the initial assassin and there was another to see that the job got done.

I have no idea who was behind the hit.

He was on the CIA's back - maybe them. Maybe the mob. He me$$ed things up for them in Cuba.

We'll prolly never know.


I don't dwell on the JFK issue. For me, it's a no brainer.
Here's my take on it:

Oswald got the first shot in and missed on the second on - that one hit pavement.
The kill shot came from in front. JFK's head snapped backward from the impact. Part of his brain landed on the trunk hood and Jackie reached for it.

The kill shot came from in front.. Good grief, it ain't rocket science. You can SEE what happened.

 

agreed JFK was the beginning of the modern democratic liberal movement and the conservatives had him shot along with the civil rights leaders of that time

his work was never completed because they put the fear of god into liberals, lyndon johnson barely scraped together a conclusion to JFKs work

 

Experiments have proven your physics is off. It is entirely plausible for Kennedy's head to snap backwards upon taking a shot to the side of the head like he did.

he was not hit in the front parietal areas.

 

If you say so, SM. I don't agree.

 

LOL, that ^ statement is delusional....and hateful.

 

JFK's assassination was a tragedy, not the least of which is because of posters like the one here. Liberals couldn't accept that a man of the left, Oswald, shot Kennedy, so they had to make up an entire counterfactual conspiracy to try to blame someone, anyone other than a disgruntled leftist.

It's damaged liberalism for decades.

 

LOL, Mike, you nailed it. The most recent version....that Jared Loughner is a right wing extremist who shot Gabby Giffords cuz Sarah Palin made him do it.

 

as usual,your posts are clueless ramblings with no merit.she is right,you are wrong.she knows something about guns where you have nothing whatsoever to prove her wrong.Like she said,you do not have to be a genuis to know that if shot from the back,your head goes backwards,not forward.you clearly know nothing at all about the laws of physics because that totally violates them.Looks like you slept though junior high school science classes obviously.

also this one researcher who served in vietnam and was a sniper,when he heard about the warren commission and saw the zapruder film,he knew immediately that the warren commison was b.s because in all his several sniper kills where he shot someone in the back of the head,he says in his book,not one ever went backwards.Trinnity and that author know something about guns and are qualified to know what they are talking about.YOU are not.also at least a handful of witnesses said they saw a gunman on the grassy knoll behind the picket fence with a rifle,many of them when they gave their story,met with intimidation and harrassment from the FBI and dallas police force afterwards and some even wound up dead. also,these videos prove as always,you are full of hot air.even police chief jesse curry in 1967 said he was intimidated by the dallas police back then to say oswald did it later saying-we can not place oswald in the sixth floor window.He met an untimelty death after that as well.oh and hate to break your heart but even the house select committe on assassinations in the 70's concluded the warren commission was wrong,that his death was the result of a probable conspiracy but unable to locate the other shooter.checkmate.

http://www.politicalforum.com/jfk/193550-open-shut-testimony-oswalds-gun-not-6th-floor.html

 

I believe he referred to an experiment.

Here's a relevant youtube clip, it's less than a minute long, you have time to watch it.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzyw7AcHbuY"]JFK's Head Movement - YouTube[/ame]

Edit: I'm not saying this happens every time, I'm not saying this is necessarily what happened at that particular time, I'm merely saying that neither option is impossible at this stage.

 

thats all pure propaganda with trick photography.simple as pie to do you know.what they really did and what their not showing you is they had someone out of site shoot it from the other side.i can tell from the way this guy talks here is a pure liar.Its so easy to spot a liar like him.you can hear it in his voice.Oh and your doing the convient thing the lone nut theorists always do,dodging the points I brought up and avoiding watching those videos in that link which debunk that propaganda and that video.i did the courtesy of watching your video,now why wont you do the courtesy and watch the videos I posted?

That guy has no debating skills whatsoever and always runs away from challeneges like that,are you going to do the same? oh and i happen to know thats propaganda with trick photography because I have seen a police officer I know who is a marksmen do that same experiment and it did NOT come backwards like that melon did in that propaganda piece.you guys may fool others but you cant fool me.

 

So your best argument refuting the clip is that he sounds like a liar? To me he sounds pretty much like he usually sounds, even when he says things I know are true.

So where is this second gunman in the 0:30 shot?

The only vids I have seen you link to are five 10-min videos, roughly than 50 times as much material. Feel free to specify which vid and at what time parts relevant for this particular question is. If there are other videos, I haven't found the links.

I wouldn't say his debating skills is particularly impressive either, but that is hardly an argument.

Again, it depends a lot on where you hit, with what, and how the bullet acts in the object. I can't say anything about what happens, I can't say anything about what happened, but I can say things about what can happen, and that's everything that I have claimed.

 

please elaborate what you mean where is the second gunman in the 0:30 shot.oh i dont know who that guy is but its so obvious in he is not a truth seeker and thats trick photography.Here is how you can find out for yourself.Go outside and put a watermelon on a stump of a tree,take a baseball bat and hit it,the force of the bat will send all the chunks flying FORWARD everytime.even more so with a gun because it has even more force.Like i said,I know this reseacher who is a cop who i saw with my own eyes shoot with a rifle 5 watermelons.EVERYTIME just like it does with a bat,the force sent everything flying forward. all i can say is if you watch those five videos I posted,it shreads to pieces the fairy tale that oswald fired the weapon.

 

Aha, I thought for a moment that maybe you had some information up your sleeve that I didn't, some understanding that I hadn't thought of. Now it is revealed that it is the other way around.

You liken the process of being hit by a bullet with the process of hitting something with a baseball bat. Yes, if you hit a melon with a baseball bat, it will go along with the force, but the processes are not equal. As is mentioned in the clip I supplied, the force transmitted in the first impact is small with a bullet. This of course depends on what bullet you're using, the wikipage for the bullet suggests that the entry wound, and therefore the force pushing the head forwards is relatively small. However, as can be seen in the Z clip, more brain exits forwards than backwards, and by conservation of momentum, that means the rest of the head goes backwards. It's the same mechanism that drives jet engines.

A careful observer might then protest, the outgoing brain might have gotten it's momentum directly from the bullet. However, as can be seen in the slowed down Z clip (here), the head actually does go forwards, until the brain comes out, sending the head backwards. The moment coming directly from the bullet, the moment you liken to a hit with a baseball bat, is present, but not large enough to counter the later effect which I have described.
That clip also verifies that the brain comes out mainly forwards.

Edit: Oh, yes, I'll gladly watch some vid, but hardly more than 2-3 min. I'm sure you can pick out the relevant parts.

Edit2: Link not working, I'll fix it. Edit 3: Fixed.

 

JFK was hit from the front on one of the shots. You can see it in the Zapruder film.
Blood spray from anterior to posterior of his head. Jackie jumped up on the back of the car to grab brain tissue. None of this is conspiratorial. You can see it for yourself.

Jesus friggin Christ. Find something important to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about - like the current state of our economy and the failure of our leaders who facilitated this MESS. At least Dodd is gone and Frank is leaving. It's a step in the right direction.

You guys fight it out. I'm outta here.

 

"On November 22, 1963, three shots rang out in Dallas,
President Kennedy died, and the world changed.

If you had the chance to change history, would you?
Would the consequences be worth it?"

 

Swensson is correct. You are analysing the world and basing your outcome on one fixed assumption, when the rest of the world is in flux.

Your analysis is deeply flawed.