"If My Vagina Were A Gun"

what relevance do they have to abortion?

 

well at least you got it right on the second attempt.

Really, then disprove it, if you can.

Then prove it

I wouldn't know, more your territory than mine. BTW how is it Grammar control when you misquoted me, got to love the blatant crap you come out with, it's so funny.

question is do you get treatment for any injuries incurred during taking those risks, or is it refused because you took those risks?

Do what, go to work lol .. as I said come back to me when Obamacare forces you to donate blood, organs or to sustain another person through a biological physical connection, until then you have no point to make.

You mean this one

Nothing opposing in my stances at all, as they are not the same issue (well unless you are a pro-lifer that is), those innocents are born, fetuses are not, neither are those innocents living inside another person, neither are they using another person body, or parts of, to sustain themselves, neither are they injuring another person.

Do you ever wonder why you have to use falsehoods in order to try and make a point.

 

I never said abortion wasn't a personal affair. However, a lot of things which aren't legally justified, are also technically "personal affairs".

Irrelevant. It could be argued either way whether or not abortion is legally jusitifed.

I wasn't arguing that abortion isn't justified.

 

Uhh, it's because pro-lifers want to make every thread about d & x or late term abortion, even though they are performed only to save the life of the woman or extreme medical reasons and are a tiny percentage of abortions performed.

In the majority of cases, it kills an embryo.

Try to focus. EVERY PREGNANCY Is a risk to the woman's health and life. EVERY PREGNANCY/childbirth permanently damages her body, in many cases requiring surgical repair. No one has the right to force the woman to risk her health and life.

We aren't talking about born alive, breathing babies.

Not the ability to feel pain and ask questions?

All very noble sounding, but there is NOTHING you can do to "protect" it. All you can ever hope to do is to force a woman to protect it, risking her health and life to deliver a baby she possibly can't even care for and doesn't want.

 

not since 2003 it hasn't been valid, so please do prove your assertion that ".. they hold it legs from kicking while they jam the forceps into the brain".

what a load of BS, you don't even know what an abortion is, even a bloody miscarriage is a spontaneous natural abortion

Abortion - 1. The deliberate termination of a human pregnancy, most often performed during the first 28 weeks:
1.1 The expulsion of a fetus from the womb by natural causes before it is able to survive independently.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/abortion

Please DO point out the bit where is says an abortion is not an abortion if the fetus doesn't die.

and yet you did assert that you knew what it was thinking .. contradicting yourself.

Wrong according to you, newsflash for you no one has to agree to and abide by what you think is wrong.

answered in another reply.

 

comparison and relevance to the assertion of innocent lives being taken, do keep up.

 

Hilarious, you ask me if the deaths of innocent people are ok, I say no, (which you didn't expect) then you say the two things are different even though YOU were the one that attempted to associate my hypocrisy on the issue. Backfired didn't it? What exactly was your point then about killing innocent people who were born if they aren't related?
No I never wonder that because I don't use falsehoods.

 

You just brought it up again. I thought you said it was off topic? Is it only off topic if I bring it up?

 

What did I say the fetus was thinking?

 

How come when I compare situations, you say that my comparisons are irrelevant?

 

Only failure would be yours. You aren't even arguing for abortion, you just argue to argue.
Let me help you out, abortion is not a privacy issue, it is a human life issue.
Again you are the one who needs comprehension lessons on what abortion actually is and what the debate is about.

 

prove they are innocent and also did you know over 77% of these innocent civilians, have been killed by terrorists that will not think twice about killing you, or i as well. Most of these *innocent* civilians actually help the terrorists in their fight to kill NATO, American, and other countries people, not just soldiers either. Some actual innocent lives are lost at the hands of allied forces, yes. To compare war on terrorism and collateral damage to abortion is absurd BTW and laughable.

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it's not

 

Yes it is hilarious that you only see and read what you want to, did you miss (yet again) this little bit "as they are not the same issue (well unless you are a pro-lifer that is), ", and please do show me where I ask you "if the deaths of innocent people are ok,", my comment to you - "Tell that to the thousands killed in Afghanistan, Iraq and currently Pakistan. " was not a question .. in fact it was you who asked me the question, so please do tell what part of my comment back-fired other than in your own mind that is.

You are the one who states (wrongly) that a fetus is an "innocent" not me
You are the one who states (wrongly) that killing a fetus is no different to killing a child

you then ask me a question based on your opinion, not mine and when answered based on my opinion you try to make out it is my doing .. absolutely inane.

 

to 'ask' for something alludes to consciousness ergo ability to think.

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because yours usually are.

 

if you say so, though your legal system disagrees with you.

 

I'll just quote the usual pro-life mantra, even one innocent death is too many.

You ask me to provide prove of their innocences and then proceed to make a statement you cannot even prove yourself ..

 

You are a riot!! Ahhh lets recap, you brought up Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan not me. Correct?
Its called a discussion forum, when "people" like you make "statements" they are fair game for discussion. I am free to call you on it. Ask any moderator.
You cite the innocent deaths in other countries but have no issue with taking the innocent life of a fetus. I find that hypocritical in a most amusing way.
Also, tell us oh "wise" one, since I "wrongly" state a fetus is "innocent" as you say, what is the fetus guilty of?

 

You are a riot. It was facetious. Everyone reading this knows the fetus cant ask that was the point of the statement. Read it again slowly with an adult. Since you are Mr. grammar patrol I'm surprised you missed the part where I said "I think not." Tell us oh wise one what do you think those three words mean at the end of my sentence?
I'll ask again before proving you a liar, where did I say the fetus was thinking?

 

Yes let us recap, you are the one who made the assertion of innocent life being taken, I made a statement, you do know the difference between a statement and a question I take it, but just in case -

Statement - a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.
question - a sentence worded or expressed so as to elicit information.

you then asked me a serious of questions which I answered, I'm sorry the answers were not what you were expecting to hear, but hey that's how the cookie crumbles, and I have never said you cannot call me on a statement made, however it would be less disingenuous of you if you actually stick to what I had written and not make up questions I never asked. eg "you ask me if the deaths of innocent people are ok," .. I have never asked you this question anywhere or at any time.

you would, based on your ideology of a fetus and a child being the same .. they are not of course.

Define innocent, which of the following definitions do you use

Adjective.
1. Not guilty of a crime or offence:
2. Without experience or knowledge of:
3. Without; lacking:
4. Not responsible for or directly involved in an event yet suffering its consequences:
5. Free from moral wrong; not corrupted:
6. Simple; naive:
7. Not involving or intended to cause harm or offence; harmless:

noun
1. A pure, guileless, or naive person:
2. A person involved by chance in a situation, especially a victim of crime or war:

 

"Did the fetus ask to be created only to be murdered? I think not" = personification of the fetus. It's a very common pro-life tactic.

 

If my penis was a gun, I could take it anywhere
though wielding it in public would instill a stare
If my penis were a gun, concealed and secure
All would assume I was armed for sure
If my penis was a gun, I could fire blanks
but still cause fear in female ranks
My penis IS a gun, well left alone
As far as rights written in stone
If only a woman was born with a (*)(*)(*)(*)
No man would spew this controlling talk
No law would be made by religious hawk
That removed her rights in ways that would mock
In favor of something as smart as a rock.

 

Strange that as facetious "humour" doesn't really equate well in written form and most people who are trying to create such a comment would enclose the relevant word or comment in inverted commas as anyone with even a medium knowledge would know that is the way sarcastic and facetious comments are displayed in debates.

Then use the tools at your disposal to show your meaning . .simple really.

why don't you try writing it again .. with an adult.

Mr Grammar patrol .. lmfao

With you they could mean anything.

already answered, not my problem if you cannot articulate your "humour" correctly.

 

So when it's rape or incest...it's NOT "killing a baby" or "killing a baby" is acceptable to those "pro-lifers"?

 

Also remember their dishonest use of "fetus", even "baby"...and applying it to even a fertilized egg one second after fertilization.

 

No it doesn't