If Paul is elected, would he give aid to Israel if attacked?

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  1. BringDownMugabe

    BringDownMugabe Well-Known Member

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    Hypothetical question.

    I know Ron Paul is an isolationist or non-interventionist who wants to restrict are involvement militarily abroad. However, assuming Ron Paul is POTUS, and Israel is attacked during his term, would he provide military aid for our ally Israel?
     
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    peoplevsmedia Banned

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    I'm not a Paul fan and even I know he isn't an isolationist.

    False premise, thread fail.
     
  4. Idiocracy

    Idiocracy New Member

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    Israel is constantly attacked and they have been able to deal with it before. Most attacks on them would not require aid from foreign countries to deal with. I assume you mean a larger attack, could you give a scenario.
     
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    AbsoluteVoluntarist New Member

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    No, he wouldn't, but it wouldn't matter because given any attack on Israel severe enough to make such a question relevant, Israel would destroy its attacker anyway. Just because it's small geographically doesn't mean it's weak. In fact, it's a powerful state with hundreds of nukes and contingency plans designed to counter such threats.
     
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    How much aid did Israel give the US after 9/11?
     
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    All politicians submit to an elite, war mongers. If they don't submit they will end up like JFK. When he is president he has nothing to say (like Bush and Obama), he must submit.
    The USA is ruled by the same evil persons as in the Roman and German empires.
    The USA is next to become such an empire. They use their mass media to convert the people's minds and they use polls to see if a large majority accepts and then they begin an attack/war. They do this all the time. If Israel is attacked they do this for only one reason, to bring the USA into war, same was done at Pearl Harbor, via this event the USA was involved into World War 2.
     
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    The demise of Israel is inevitable if they don't promote peace and compromise. The US can only save them for so long. Their other alternative is to battle to the death. Either way, we the American public, owe them no money borrowed from China to continue their existence...
     
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    Why do people keep thinking that Paul would do anything differently than everyone who has come before?
    If Paul ever ended up as potus, he would abandon all of his crackpot ideas and adopt the official policy threads of the US as assiduously as Bush or Obama ever did. Or he'd be dead in a few weeks.

    In the real world, as opposed to the delusional rantings of political amateurs, there is the force of precedent that limits options, and government is necessarily hobbled by the need to build a working consensus to get anything done.
    Paul would get nothing done and in 6 months the rubes would be whining that Paul was the same as Bush or Obama.
    These demagogic notions about Paul reinventing the US are just silly and betray the naivete of the Paul supporters.
     
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    ^Nice post.
     
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    This is a new strategy, try to say he would dramatically change his stance that he has had over 40 years and revert to being just like Obama or Bush. I guess you could state that premiss, but you have absolutely no proof or evidence to suggest that would ever happen. Maybe Ron started off 30 years ago in politics to vote constitutionally just to get the record of being a "by the book" president, just to do a 180 when he gets elected at 76 y/o. Sounds like a great plan.
     
  12. Dr. Righteous

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    The fact that you don't understand the difference between the two means that I completely lost interest in answering your question. It's clear that you have a lot to learn before I can even begin to educate you.
     
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    'Israel' attacks anyone and everyone, safe in the knowledge that American mugs will back their grossest and bloodiest crime. If Paul is prepared to end this slavish quislingism it is the first good thing I've heard about him. I doubt, however
     
  14. Teutorian

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    Israel can defend itself. It has an incredibly powerful conventional military and enough nuclear weapons to make the entire Middle East an uninhabitable wasteland. We don't need to be involved.
     
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    And that is precisely why representing the people, a 76 year old is allowed on special interest controlled media as a candidate IMO
     
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    I do not think he would abandon his ideas, but it would be interesting to see what would happen if he died, even due to a heart attack, after starting to make some changes. I saw thru Obama (didn't vote for him) and I saw thru Kerry (hesitantly voted for him) but I believe Ron Paul is genuine - not a fraud. I could not say the same about Obama for a second.
     

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