If Ya "Throw Down" On A Cop You Gonna Get "POPPED" period

Look every time there is a police shooting we go all ballistic and three months later we are still obsessed with Ferguson

LOOK here People

"If ya THROW DOWN" on a COP you had better EXPECT to get "POPPED" because a Law Enforcement Officer is TRAINED to SHOOT YA....."period"

It all boils down to "Common Sense" okay

 

If you fight or attack a police officer, one would and should expect that an officer is gong to protect himself. That is a given.

But we all have grown with the concept of giving up. Saying I give. I surrender...::::::::...Being shot in the act of or after giving up is the question.

What happen at the vehicle does not answer that question.

No one should say that police should not or can not defend himself... What is being asked[and should be asked in every police involved shooting] is when is the line crossed from self defense to murder.

 

I will say if one is UNARMED then Mace or Tasers should be a first option but if you are being pummeled even by fists your reaction might turn to fight or flight mode and an officer might just pull the gun and FIRE

 

Beating on a police officer is not surrendering.

 

You said it yourself . . . "What happen (sic) at the vehicle does not answer that question".

Police are NOT going to wait for a halfazzed comment like "OOH, Uncle, I give up".

 

I don't think the officer can apply self defense theory when being attacked as a citizen would , it requires the person to walk away if possible . The police simply can NOT walk away from being assaulted and only he would know if he felt his life was in danger . I clearly think ANY rational person should know if you attempt to take an officers gun to shoot him you most likely will end up justifiably dead . If Mr. Brown was white you would never know it happened.

 

lol. Cops don't have supernatural powers. By the time one figures out whether someone is armed, it's too late.

A guy I slightly knew was armed with a knife. He charged at cops. They tasered him but he didn't go down. Just kept charging, flashing a knife. So they shot him.

Good kill.

Turned out there was a gun in his car, but at the time, he was armed only with the knife. A cop shouldn't have to wait 'til it's too late to determine which weapons a nut might have on him.

 

Does that still apply when a 300 pound thug is trying to kill you with your own gun ? First option should always be self preservation ! When a thug attempts to take your gun the last thing you want to do is go for the mace .

 

I don't like that common sense. If a person strikes a cop, this should never give the cop the right to shoot and kill that person. The reaction is not called for. And it eventually leads to people waging a civilian war on cops. That too is common sense, based upon what human beings are.

The mentality displayed in this OP is dangerous, as well as being highly uneducated.

 

This is 2014 didn't you know that it's a civil right to fight the police without consequences?

 

Altercations with cops Rarely HAPPEN in a bubble. There are previous arrests, drugs, alcohol, insubordination, Ect. The number of violent incidents that happen with zero provocation from the citizen are too rare to count.

 

Logically speaking, I would have to think that any time you 'throw down' with ANYONE that has a weapon, you have to expect you may die.

So in that respect, I would have to think that you shouldn't 'throw down' at all unless you think your life is in imminent danger.

If the cop does something wrong, you can always press charges against them later. And if the system really IS as corrupted as some people think, you aren't going to be able to do anything about it on your own. Wait until you have the numbers and power first.

 

Per the thread title----------------thats what is going to happen, and it is right.

 

Sure, this is accomplished by dropping to the ground and putting your hands behind your head the instant the cop says so. Doing anything other than that will get you blown away, rightly so when you have just tried to disarm that cop. Keep trying to rationalize though, it's funny.

 

Not that I'm advocating fighting with cops, but that logic doesn't quite add up. If the system is corrupt, it's entirely possible that you have a better chance of surviving the cop than you do the courts. Dealing with one cop on the street seems like a likelier prospect than dealing with twenty cops and a judge while you're in handcuffs. I think that's what a lot of people are thinking, anyway, when they violently resist.

There are a lot of freaky tough cops out there, though. When it comes to hand-to-hand combat and forcing people to do what you want whether they like it or not, they've got more practice than anybody. So even if you're in the right and the cop is in the wrong (which I can't help but notice our freedom-loving republicans seem to think NEVER happens), be realistic about your chances. They're probably a lot worse than you think.

 

If you pull a weapon (even a knife or bat) you should expect to be shot. If you are lucky and find a rare officer with enough experience and self control you may not be, but that's not the way to bet.

 

If the system were really that corrupt, then pulling a weapon on the police would be a death sentance anyway. Even if you survive your run in with that cop, there will be many more coming after you in the future.

In a gun versus gun showdown, it all comes down to your accuracy and reflexes. Unless you already have your gun drawn on the officer and fire before he draws his, things are going to become very sticky and volatile, very fast.

 

Or that looting was the proper means of airing complaints ! And they wonder why businesses refuse to start up there . At one time looters were shot end of story !

 

O.K. I've seen these threads too many times before, so I'll ask the same question:
How many of the posters here are cops/x-cops? How many really, really know what it's like to make a life or death decision in the time it takes to sneeze? How many have actually had to take a life in self defense or the defense of others and then had to live with that decision? I'm all for a healthy debate, and I appreciate that everyone has an opinion, but like anything else, unless you've been there, done that, don't judge.
Enjoy!

 

I guarantee you that every anti LE post you see is from a leftist who's never been in any altercation outside of watching TV and posting here. They are typically the ones who post such classics as,

"he didn't need to shoot him 5 times"
"he could of shot him in the leg/and or shot the gun out of his hand"
'he should of used pepper spray/tazer"
"he was unarmed" (you know, unarmed people are 100% harmless)

These same people don't give a damn when a LEO is gunned down by a thug they so love to hug. These same people do not give a crap about the LEO's widow and kids left behind either, they just say "he knew the risks that he signed up for"

I'm going to stop typing before I get red in the face thinking about how some of these people actually belong to our species.

 

daybreaker

What is wrong with stopping crime????? This is what we pay the police to do. Fighting a policeman is stupid and against the law.

 

What's interesting though is that you take the opposite extreme position it seems.

I've never been able to understand why everything must be all or nothing. Why is it not possible to admit that there are some cops out there who cross the line, but by doing so you're not indicting every single police officer out there for the same thing?

Not all cops are created equal. Some are unstable, some are trigger happy, some have agendas. It's because those are all things that people do and cops are people.

So when one of these shootings happen, we don't have to all double down on one side or the other. I can say "Hmm, in this situation it looks like the cop acted appropriately" or "The cop crossed the line of what is acceptable here" without needing to apply that same argument to every situation.

People complain that the left and the media demonize cops but then you have those people demonizing the folks who would ask whether the police should or shouldn't have done something in a particular situation. I completely respect the fact that being a police officer is by no means an easy job. I have a lot of respect for those in uniform who do their duty correctly. But there's a reason that not everyone can just go be a police officer and it's because the job requires a high level of discipline and self control. We can't ask for anything less from those who have the power of life and death in their hands and the tools to see it done.

Blind loyalty to anything is dangerous.

 

Nowhere did I throw in 100% with every LE encounter. I know full well that bad police encounters happen every day, but they are nowhere near as common as the media would like the low information public to believe.

I have known cops that act unethically personally before btw, not afraid to admit that. It's the public that assumes they know how to handle violent, crazy thugs who wouldn't think twice about killing a LEO that I have a problem with.

The public's LE experience comes from CSI and Hollywood, that's enough said.

 

Well, pretend it's a white kid getting shot. Then all the republicans will suddenly understand that cops aren't always in the right. What we've had lately in the news is cops shooting black kids (which they universally refer to as "thugs" 'cause that's how republicans roll), so the republicans all very pro-cop.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bristo...ot-and-killed-by-black-cop-in-salt-lake-city/

Sometimes (I would like to think most times) the cops are doing their jobs. Sometimes they're covering their own butts. Sometimes they're part of their own crime ring. There's no way to know.

 

Enjoy!