If you got one thing free every day what would it be???

Both Communism and Capitalism are equally flawed systems. Scandinavian Socialism is close to an ideal society.

 

I am not a robber. Only The State makes expropriation illegal since The State defines property.

 

Cyber Citizen.

 

So you admit to your Marxist upbringing. Good to know.

 

Generally The State forbids expropriation of property and capture of individuals. Thus, The State defines property. The state also has a right to tax property.

 

The state was given the power to tax property; if this power is taken away, it cannot so tax.
Thus, the state does not have the right to tax property.

 

In my opinion, The State must provide a Bill of Positive Rights:
1) Food
2) Shelter
3) Medical care
all of reasonable quality.

 

Without taxes, The State can not exist unless it owns huge natural resources. Without the State, no one would have a right to their property.

 

None of this changes the fact the state does not have the right to tax.

 

Because you hate freedom and support involuntary servitude.

 

There is no such thing as Absolute Freedom. Every person is dependent upon the State and Society.

 

No they aren't.

How The West Was Won.
The pioneer spirit.

There is a group of people in any society who don't need it.
And many people advocate for this lifestyle of self reliance.
The amount to which they achieve it varies.

Others form communities. The hippies, the Amish and so on.
So that the society they build is not connected with the state.

Others still form criminal societies and thrive in direct confliction with the state.

The hermit who lives in the hills. Doesn't need any of you.



City people need country people (for food). But it's not true in reverse.
Life goes on without you.

 

Your claim was that the state protects your property. Demonstrably false. If the state was truly in the business of protecting property, there would be no robberies. The police cannot protect you, they can only arrest and ask the state's attorney to prosecute. But, if you think otherwise, go ahead an leave your door wide open and leave. Find out for yourself if the state is in the business of preventing crimes.

 

Meh - I've never taken a single penny of taxpayer's money. I really don't fly on the state for anything and I most certainly am not dependent on the state. The level of overreach in our government is stunning, sad & maddening, all at the same time. **** the fed. Give me back my money and go back to doing your constitutionally required tasks.

 

Fact remains: You hate freedom. Period.

 

Without State, robberies would be much more common. Even capture of people would be widely practiced.

 

That, I agree to be inarguable.

I agree that we depend primarily on government for the protection of our natural, unalienable rights, and through a democratic process local governments are created.
Each individual depends upon a great number of of other individuals for creating and making available our needs and wants.
We are all dependent on governments, local, State, and Federal, to provide many things which result in our collective, but not individual survival.
In our early history, we were an agrarian society which resulted in large families to provide the labours needed for survival. As we moved to a more industrial, mechanized society, our productivity began to increase with a diminishing need for human labour.
The primary source of most all our problems is population growth, resulting in a supply of people, all of whom have needs and wants, which continually exceeds the demands of employment.
There is NO rational right to food, shelter, or medical care, other than what other individuals are able and willing to provide by their own choosing. Government has no right, duty, or responsibility to provide what it must take or force another to give in order to provide it to another.
The ONLY viable solution to most all our problems, in my opinion, is a gradual reduction of population growth to the point where the demand for labour begins to result in the supply of labour having the upper hand in making wage demands.

 

Are you saying that the only reason you don't commit crimes is because we have laws? Criminals are criminals despite the law. Good people don't have fantasies of committing armed robbery & murder. smh.

 

The Scandinavian countries have capitalism, not socialism. They have more social programs and higher taxes to pay for them, but that is not socialism.

 

Weighing 150 kg, I would not make a good robber. In Europe before strong State, Vikings were robbers. Some of them can be respected and remembered as heroes.

 

You are technically right. I find their system ideal.

 

I would like all of those. Can I send you a bill?

 

Sure they do, they just don't act on them.

 

Here they can be remembered as dead.

Raping murdering slavers. Now dead.
They had a good run but we got organised. And it was a state led defence. Yes.

 

And any comparison is like comparing Apples and Tin.