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How much of Patriot Front are feds?

  1. All Feds.

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    0.0%
  2. Mostly Feds, maybe a few numbskulls along for the ride like with the Gretchin Widmer kidnappers.

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    11.1%
  3. Prolly 50/50, but definitely with Feds at the helm, like with the KKK.

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    22.2%
  4. Mostly legit white supremacists with a few agents guiding them.

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    33.3%
  5. Any agents are just undercover waiting to foil a terror plot.

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How much of the Patriot Front are Feds?

    Videos: White Supremacist Patriot Front Group Marches Through City (msn.com)

    I see them march, see what they wear (basically uniforms), how they're always hiding any identifying features, and it screams Federal Agent Provacateurs to me. Pride groups don't hide their identities. They want to be recognized.

    And by 'Feds' I don't mean its actual FBI agents or even necessarily agents of the government. Could be 'confidential informants', recruit hazing rituals, 'crisis actors' or hired cosplayers... but I think its people who arent actually white supremacists being directed and/or hired by agencies of or reporting to, ultimately, the federal government, marching on a script.

    But until they start marching without face coverings, its all, of course, speculation.
     
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    Entirely plausible. The left does need their Boogeyman front and center.
     
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    Proud Boys, I mean Feds, marching in NYC!
     
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    Well, according to most authorities the group has about 200 members, but lets be generous and say they have 1,000. No news report actually says they have more than 200 members, but lets go with 1,000 anyway.

    So even if all 1,000 members were Federal Employees, that would equate to 1 patriot front member for every 3,000 Federal Employees.

    Another scare report rolled up into a conspiracy theory that just doesn't hold water.
     
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    Whenever I see a name that’s supposed to sound noble or righteous like “Patriot Front” or “Moms for Liberty,” chances are they’re the exact opposite.
     
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    But there's enough boogeymen out there that they don't really need inventing. The internet has brought morons of all kinds out of the cracks from both sides and allowed them to network in a way that wasn't possible before. In the past, groups like this would probably be isolated little packs, but with the internet they can be national and even international with very little effort involved. Combine that with the divisive "they want to destroy our country" narratives that both sides use to manipulate their supporters and there's almost no reason to believe these groups are planted. The morons are all out there and now they can organize.
     
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    I don't agree with this reasoning. They hide their identities if they have cause to think somebody may want to do them harm for their beliefs. Does white supremacist quality? Definitely. They could lose their job, somebody could stalk them and kill them and think they're doing the world a service.

    If I had to guess? Zero to a few are feds. Feds will certainly infiltrate groups to help prove crimes or thwart terrorism.
     
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    If, for example, someone’s a white supremacist and they lose their job, then that’s their own fault and theirs alone.
     
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    Do you think black and brown racist should lose their job too?
     
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    Maybe, but the point was it's a good motivation for them to disguise themselves while expressing their unfortunate beliefs, so them disguising themselves doesn't suggest they are feds.
     
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    Yep.
     
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    For pragmatic reasons, yeah a disguise is smart, especially since there are definitely some people in the police force, feds and the military that are closet white supremacists.
     
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    I've been suspicious of this group in particular because in every video I've seen of the marches, they break the law and give the cops ample reason to arrest the lot of them, but it doesn't seem to happen. Instead the cops stand by as they load and unload from moving vans (illegal) and cover their car license plates (illegal). Someone should explain why cities across the country are giving such wide deference and legal immunity to a white supremacist organization.
     
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    If only the only ones who were in the closet like that were just the white people.

    You so often talk about white supremacy but it's almost like you believe that no one else but white people can be racist
     
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    Remember that time about a year ago that the five black cops beat the hell out of a black man or maybe it was they even killed him and it was blamed on white supremacy?

    We all got a good chuckle out of that around here
     
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    Good for you and your sense of humor. How does this change what I linked in the story?
     

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