If you were an employer...

If you ran your own company and had job vacancies, would you only hire people whose political and religious beliefs matched your own?
For example if you were a Trump supporter would you only hire people who liked Trump, and if you were a Christian would you only hire Christians?
Likewise if you were a nonsmoker/nondrinker would you only hire people who didn't smoke/drink?
As for race, would you only hire your own race?

 

no, because I would be sued out of business for discrimination

 

Of course I would only hire those whose values are similar to mine. Of course, that's not going to be explicitly stated on the help wanted ad, but that's how it would work out, just the same.

 

Well I sure wouldn't hire people that I would be in conflict with..

 

Nope, I have hired a dozen or so over my time and as long as they can do what they claimed they could on the job I let them and the other guys deal with nonsense. I try not to get to buddy buddy with peeps that work for me, general rule of thumb the bigger the ass kisser the less they do!

 

Depends on what the job is, doesn't it? If it's for a Christian church prayer coordinator, why would I hire a non-Christian? If it was for an AA position, wouldn't it be best to hire a non-drinker? Do upper positions of the NAACP go to Chinese people? Now, if I'm trying to hire someone who knows something about plumbing, I don't really care about religious background, race, etc. I care about their ability to do plumbing.

And that's important. Especially if you're worried about team cohesion. I don't care how great someone is, if they don't fit well within the team dynamic, it's probably better to pass and go with someone different.

I agree with the buddy buddy thing.

 

Some of the grounds for discrimination in the OP are permitted, some aren't.

To answer the actual topic, when I need help, I don't hire anyone, I contract for the specific help over the specific time. Hiring employees when you don't absolutely have to is a huge mistake in the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex USA. Always use contractors if there's any way possible to do so.

Sound mean and heartless? NO, it's the Complex that is greedy and corrupt... 90% it's the Democrats on employment issues "taking a mile" at every opportunity. GOP tends to be reasonable.

Also, when contracting, make certain that you aren't their only client and that they have a business entity set up that is distinct from themselves, not just a sole proprietorship in their name, else the corrupt, incompetent, greedy Complex regulators will try to rubber stamp/fabricate contractors into your employees at every opportunity. Most of those are sub 80 IQ imbeciles, so dealing with them is a gruesome nightmare. Avoid at all costs.

 

I'd likely prefer to, from a less stress standpoint, but I don't think I'd dig that deeply, even if I could.

 

I like to make money, so the people who works for me had better share that same goal. What they do outside of my business, I don't really care (unless the activity is a criminal one).

 

Does anybody know how many white people are on the board of directors for BET?

How many conservatives work for facebook?

 

No, but I support voluntary employment under which both parties agree to the terms. I support the right of employers to hire for literally whatever reason they like.

 

Yes but suppose two great fantastic plumbers with the exact same qualifications and experience applied for the same job, and the first was a drinker, smoker and nonchristian, but the second one wasn't.
Wouldn't it be simple good business sense to hire the second, knowing that he's never going to arrive for work drunk, and won't be taking smoking breaks, and that as a christian he's going to make the success of your business his absolute top priority?

 

Good point, but you won't find out if they're good or bad workers until you actually hire them and see how they do.
I'm not an employer so correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be simpler to hire people on the strength of their job application letter and their interview?
For example if an applicant with excellent references and experience says "I have strong Christian values", wouldn't you want to snap him up and get him on your team as quickly as possible, knowing that Christians hold values such as-
"There is no more noble occupation in the world than to assist another human being, to help someone succeed"- Alan Loy McGinnis (1933-2005)
"Just make up your mind at the very outset that your work is going to stand for quality... that you are going to stamp a superior quality upon everything that goes out of your hands, that whatever you do shall bear the hall-mark of excellence." - Orison Swett Marden (1850-1924)

 

First, I could not, legally ask any of the questions in an interview, or ask those questions on an application given to potential employees. Second, I could not evaluate a potential employee for any of those factors. If I did, I'd be liable for hiring discrimination. Third, I don't want to be sued.

We hire folks because they are the most skilled for the salary I can afford. Simple as that.

 

I don't care about race, gender, or ideology, I care bout the effectiveness at which an employee would do the job.

 

As a matter of fact, I've just conducted an interview for a potential new team member today. I don't really care about the religious backgrounds since there are many "religious" people that are in name only, but not much when it comes to practice. Strength in job description and honesty in abilities are all I'm looking for.

 

Ah, but supposing you ask your workers to give up their weekends and do overtime to help get an order out on time, who do you think is the more likely to step up to the plate, a Christian or nonchristian?..

 

LOL...they guy that step up to the plate is the guy that wants to keep his job

 

Can't say I've noticed nonchristians being worse workers.

 

You have to be kidding here. I have done a ton of hiring. I do NOT want to know whether they are or are not religious. I do NOT want to know their orientation. I do NOT want to know their politics. Those characteristics do nothing to help me learn if they are honest, friendly, hard working or team players. They do more to confound and confuse the picture, than to clear up the picture.

I do ask them, " Are there any times or days that you can't work, or prefer not to work at all" they usually offer an explanation when they say I can't work Tuesday nights, or Sunday mornings. I do ask them if they have problems working any holidays. They may or may not mention a religious preference. I do ask them how many hours a week they want.

You do not get a cohesive team, by only hiring people of the same religion or political views. You get a cohesive team by hiring people who will be respectful of differences and want to get along , and insisting that your team treat the newbie the same way. You are supposed to discourage cliquish behavior in your staff. What you are suggesting is actually ensuring it.

 

But surely if everybody in your employ has the same religious, political and life views, surely they're going to be more efficient than a team who hate each others guts?
Personally if I started a job and discovered I had to work alongside too many numbnuts, I'd walk out. In fact I've done that in the past several times because I can't suffer fools at all..

 

I used to hire people before I retired. The two worst employees I ever hired were an alcoholic who often showed up in bad shape if at all and a Christian who felt his duty was to proselytize and to criticize his fellow workers on the company dime.

 

Or African Americans working for the Country Music Network

 

I've never hired or owned my own business.. but, in hiring, I don't care about who they are and don't want to know their details.

I would just want them to work it to the nub for minimum wage.

 

If I knew about the drinking / smoking, that factor may play into my hiring decision, based on the drunkenness / smoking breaks you refer to. As to the Christian, I have hired Christian contractors before, people I thought I knew, and a couple of them did exceptionally shabby work and I needed to let them go. Sadly, someone saying they are "Christian" in no way guarantees the quality of their work.

I agree.

I agree, but with the caveat that if the position is, say, a church position, I'm going to restrict my search appropriately. (And that would apply to other religions as well. It makes no sense to hire a Christian to work at a Muslim bookstore, and vice versa).