Yet again, another one of those friendly illegals murders an American citizen. Woman stabbed to death in Albion parking lot This isn't surprising of course when we find that over 50% of the illegals deported this year have criminal records. 400,000 deported from US in 2011
There was a 10-year old girl murdered in Dallas over the weekend and the cops are holding an illegal alien as the prime suspect.
Oh really? Looks like Obama is really cleaning house. Of course, just a drop in the bucket. I know the way to solve the problem, but nobody has the stones to actually do it.
Yes Really. I said Liberals not Obama. Obama does not speak for all liberals. I know Sanctuary cities allow these people to thrive and not a single republican mayor implemented any of them. Obama is doing about 1/3 of the work he needs to do to keep American citizens safe. He doesn't secure the border, killed the fence, ignores the flagrant violations of federal law by cities when he can easily deny them federal money but does nothing. The ONLY thing he has done well is deportations. Perhaps in your world thats enough but in reality its not even close. And this death is just more proof of it. Try a little reading first next time. http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims_2.html
But he is the liberal-in-chief, is he not? And what did the last Republican president do to address these flagrant aiders and abettors? Not a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing? You're correct. And look at the way his administration dealt with the railroaded Border Patrol officers Ramos and Campeon -- sentenced to ten years each in federal prison for shooting an illegal alien drug dealer in the butt while doing their jobs -- which we thought was to secure our borders. Did Bush like illegal aliens that much? Probably not, but his cronies certainly did -- they were very happy to have him insure a steady supply of cheap, exploitable labor for their meat packing plants, ranching operations, heck somebody has to pick all that corn for the ethanol producers... and they already told us these are "jobs Americans won't do." Oh, and as far as illegal alien sanctuaries, you can add The Catholic Church to the list. "The Archdiocese of Los Angeles: Now With Even More Illegal Aliens. We Don't Just Protect Pedophiles Anymore!" If even that. But he's still doing a better job than Bush. We hardly need to deport any of them. And we sure as hell don't need to (*)(*)(*)(*) billions down the drain on a GD fence. What we need to do is invite them to leave. If we do it right, they'll go home on their own. But we won't do it right. We won't do it right because we don't pack the gear... More proof that the Federal Government, under various administrations since that bastion of liberalism Ronald Reagan granted the first amnesty to 3 million illegals, has not done its job in defending our borders. Yes, we agree. Whatever. No need to be a jerk. We're on the same side here.
And there are 1000s of liberals from Congress to states who also make laws on illegal immigration do they not? He did very little yes. Exactly how does this exonerate liberals? Can you explain that? You seem to believe only a president makes laws and controls cities. Is this true? You are only making my point. Their focus is the same as liberals. Filling the seats and donations. Good we agree. Please explain how If we don't need to deport them why do you excuse that happened to this woman? If he was deported she would be alive, period end of story and there are thousands of others who would be alive if deportations were stronger. And of course the fence needs to be fixed. How exactly does an open border work to control illegal immigration? Yes Reagan made a big mistake but there have been literally dozens of liberals in power who have aided illegals and continue to do so right now. Why is it so hard for you to admit that Liberals are far more lenient on illegal immigration than conservatives? Can you do that? If we are on the same side why not condemn the liberals running the Sanctuary cities and condemn Obama for doing nothing about them?
Because he shouldn't have even been in this country. Why should we allow the importation of criminals?
EDITED OUT TROLLING You mean among the millions of illegals hired by big business in this country, some of them commit crimes. Wow!
So you are ok with illegal aliens killing our people? If you are against that you are xenophobic according to you? Exactly why should be tolerate illegal immigrants who are breaking the law? Can you explain that?
Because man! They're human too man! I mean... psshhh... (*)(*)(*)(*)ing national borders and (*)(*)(*)(*)... God, you're such a racist pig! /Liberal hat off
I am an immigrant myself, though I immigrated here legally. It looks like you either didn't bother to read the original post or simply chose to ignore the facts contained within it. If over 50% of the 400,000 deported this year have criminal records then I think it is fair to say that more than just "some" as you put it commit crimes.
But the president sets the agenda. And the fact is, according to the news story I posted, he's doing a better job than Bush did regarding illegal immigration. And, Clinton, for that matter, did a better job than Bush did. Now, to be fair to conservatives, I do not believe Bush was a conservative. But Clinton and Obama are textbook liberals. Referring to Bush, yes. Why do you think so? Why do you think he not only ignored the issue for the most part, occasionally paying lip service to "comprehensive immigration reform" (which is code for amnesty) but even went so far as to allow his Justice Department to railroad two career border guards whose lives were absolutely destroyed by simply doing their jobs? The message was clear: "hands off the illegals." Why? It doesn't. Nor did I remotely suggest it did. What have I posted that would make you draw such an inaccurate conclusion? Now it seems you want to exonerate conservatives. Sure. How Obama is doing a better job than Bush? I already did. You can re-read the article I posted for clarification. I'm not sure if you're just imagining what you'd like to think I'm saying but, again, when did I even remotely suggest that I am "excusing what happened to this woman?" That is a ridiculous assertion on your part and is, at best, a substantial misread of my position, and at worst an intentional distortion. Please knock it off. Or, if he was not in this country in the first place, thereby precluding the need for deportation, she may also be alive. So we really need to understand why he and 20-30 million of his friends and neighbors are here in the first place. I'll tell you why -- and you are free to disagree, of course: they are here because we have invited them to be here. We have welcomed them with open arms. We have sent the message loud and clear, "don't stand in line like a sucker, just swim across the river and you will have riches beyond your wildest dreams... we will feed you, clothe you, educate you, medicate you, employ you, and give you access to all manner of public services and social welfare programs... and we will not even ask you to assimilate into our culture! In fact, we will change for you! We will make sure our election ballots are printed in your language so you can take advantage of our system even though you're not supposed to vote. We will make sure to have people in our hospitals, our DMVs, our post offices, and our banks who speak your language so you needn't bother learning ours. Oh, and as an added bonus, if you happen to ejaculate in the right place, your progeny is born a full citizen with all the rights and immunities that our founders died for, for it is your offspring's birthright. Then we will cry crocodile tears if the meanies in the government try to send you home and split up you family. In a word, we are going to turn on a giant magnet to draw you here, to the point that you are a fool if you don't come." That's why they're here. Who is responsible? Well, of course it's the conservatives who want to insure a steady supply of cheap, exploitable labor for their buddies and who don't mind one bit making the U.S. taxpayer shoulder the burden of such a de facto unfunded mandate. Well, of course, it's the liberals who think that everyone is entitled to everything under the sun unless you are a sucker who actually works for a living and pays taxes, in which case you are in the unenviable position of being the golden goose. Not at all. No need to urinate billions down the drain -- no doubt a little payola to the unions as well. All we need to do, as I said upthread, is invite them to leave. How do we do this? Easy. It's so easy it's ridiculous -- which is also consequently why it will never happen. We just need to shut off that magnet. And shutting off the magnet is a simple as actually bothering to enforce the law that is on the books as we speak. It's a pretty good law too. But nobody -- not on the left, not on the right, not even in the center, has the huevos to enforce it. Or the political will for that matter. It's as simple as enforcing Reagan's amnesty -- which, despite the amnesty part -- is actually a very good law which for the first time required employers to verify that their employees were eligible to work in this country and prescribed steep punitive fines for violators -- and even jail time for the most egregious of them. It was passed by congress, signed into law by the president, and then quickly forgotten, oh, except of course for the amnesty part. So now we have how many? 3 million got amnesty back in 1986 and this was supposed to solve the problem. Some estimates are as high as 30 million -- a tenfold increase in only 25 years, and under three Republican and two Democratic administrations. For some reason they just keep on coming. The reason? The magnet. Shut it off and they go home. They will deport themselves -- most will anyway, and those who don't will march in our streets, conveniently congregating for law enforcement to round up the stragglers. As I said, invite them to leave. See: Canada. Along with dozens of conservatives. Come on man, get your head out of the sand... or possibly even somewhere else. Because it is not true. Both are equally bad, only for slightly different reasons. And if you want to use deportation as a metric, then the liberals are actually better because both Clinton and Obama have overseen more deportations than did Reagan, Bush, and Bush. I like to deal in facts when possible. So, no. I'm not drinking that kool aid. I condemn them. Unequivocally. And I guess we're actually not on the same side, because I am on the side of the rule of law, and you appear to simply be on the side of your party.
Most of them are -- at least if they are working, ironically. It is not a crime to enter the country without authorization, it is a civil infraction subject to deportation. It is a crime to work illegally, especially to use fraudulent documents to obtain employment -- and a rather serious one at that. So, here's some logic for you: not a crime to enter; is a crime to work; not a crime to take welfare! Politicians -- gotta love 'em.
Welcome, fellow citizen. And congratulations, you now live in the greatest country on Earth. And let's not forget, on some level, we are all immigrants. It's worse than that -- most illegals who come here to work in any kind of job outside of agriculture do so with fraudulent documents. You can buy a Social Security card and a green card for $50 in MacArthur Park in Los Angeles... and forgery of federal documents is a very serious crime.
...and conservatives just want cheap labor -- legally or illegally. Illegal immigration is a problem that stems from neglect on both sides.
