Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

I apologize I did not mean to dominate. I was just answering good questions. I will get off now. I just did not want to ignore anyone and my comments are not mean to insult anyone or act like an sob know it all. I respect all opinions.

 

False. Rittenhouse was retreating. In fact he was running away with his back turned and they fired at him.

Watch the second video:

https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featur...enhouse-was-shot-at-before-defending-himself/

AFTER they shot at him and a mob was chasing him he fired his weapon. He had EVERY right to do so and it was clearly self defense.

 

He did not say "I'm here to enforce the law" nor anything like it in his interview. He said, "And my job also is to protect people. If someone is hurt, I’m running into harm’s way. That’s why I have my rifle; I’ve gotta protect myself, obviously. But I also have my med kit." Nothing about "enforcing the law" there. That's a figment of your overactive imagination.

 

I got a picture of me with a marine. I’m a marine now!!! HOOAH

 

This is FALSE. He said "my job also is to protect people. If someone is hurt, I’m running into harm’s way."

 

Again you offer a subjective interpretation of the tapes that isolate only what you want to see. He pointed a gun before he retreated. You freeze frame it like the moment he turns his back everything should stop and freeze. Of course it doesn't. People do not know when he will turn around again. The sequence doesn't freeze its all blurred in the heat of the moment.

 

You don’t get to shoot at someone who is running away from a mob and they don’t get to defend themselves. I don’t give a damn how you frame it.

Who was the first to fire their weapon? The mob or Kyle? And was said shot fired while Kyles back was turned and he was running away?

 

Finish your thought. He wasn't there to protect people in the streets demonstrating. He was there to protect his fellow vigilantes and he did say and admit he was there to protect property. His defense team have stated it and are using it as a defense do there is no point denying it.

 

Please show where he did this BEFORE being threatened and assaulted. TIA

 

Where? When? Provide a credible source for this claim. Show us the video / court filing / tweet / whatever that confirms this. My Rittenhouse quote came directly from your USA Today source.

 

Your comments again isolate the cause and effect to select whatever you think justifies what Rittenhouse did. When the court weights what happened it will not do what you are doing. It will look to see the actions nefore and after Rittenhouse turned his back and your making the pronouncement what people get or do not get to do in the heat of the moment is absurd. Why? Because your entire argument is premised on Rittenhouse gets to use a gun, point it, and enter a crowd to point his gun but the people he points out don't get to react. That is a one sided analysis reflecting your biases in favour of Rittenhouse. Hey I could go on all night. Its how lawyers work and argue. Quick as you see your side of an issue they present the other side. It won't as simple as you pro Rittenhouse supporters think it is. That is all I am saying.

I am also saying none of us have all the evidence. Missing all possible evidence can distort one's understanding of what actually went down. So stop trying to armchair Judge it and wait. Be patient and trust the legal system to obtain and weigh as much relevant evidence to get to the conclusions they make.

 

I love when Canadians attempt to lecture us on guns ans self defense....

 

If you have evidence he did what you claim he did:

“Rittenhouse gets to use a gun, point it, and enter a crowd to point his gun”

Then produce it.

I’ve watched plenty of these videos and there’s zero evidence of what you’re claiming.

 

I am not lying. I am presenting the DA's position and there evidence will be more than what you just said. I presented the DA's argument not mine. Lying presumes I know the actual facts and am deliberately falsifying them. I have repeated to you many times neither you or I have the full evidence.

Next the fact I disagree with your preconceived opinions does not mean I lie nor does it mean I have assumed whether this individual is guilty or not. You have assumed he must be innocent, he shot at scum bags and a pedophile who deserved to die, etc. You not I am rendering the judgements.

 

I'm telling you now, this DA is headed for a Mike Nifong-level failure. It's going to be epic.

 

So now you deny Rittenhouse pointed his rifle? Really? You have no evidence of that?

 

Yes you are.

Where / when did the DA claim RIttenhouse was a member of the Proud Boys. Please provide a source for this claim. If you've just "presented the DA's argument" this should be a simple matter. If you're making it up, then you'll be unable to provide a source.

 

Not before he is being chased by a mob no. Do you have evidence otherwise? If so produce it.

 

We are waiting on you to produce evidence he pointed his rifle with no legit reason, like you clearly implied.

 

I am off. To the poster who wants evidence he pointed his rifle uh no I don't and won't engage in tit for tats as to what the press reported and get into a piss match with you as to what happened. I was not there and you were not there and the info you rely on or I would rely on to date is not accurate. What I have tried to tell you is that your belief you know all there is to know is selective and not how the law works. You can read articles from the bystanders as to their saying he pointed a rifle but I doubt you would believe them at this point. I did present one article saying that already.

 

Yeah, I got that champ. However even armed with this key information it seems that the police and the DA are still pursuing murder charges against this guy. Whenever you shoot and kill people, it tends to become a problem. My guess is that he will end up entering a plea deal and get 2-5 in the pen and be out in 18 months with credit for whatever time he did before he got bailed out. If he goes to trial, I would bet he gets convicted of manslaughter and gets roughly the same sentence or maybe a few more years. Either way he will not be legally allowed to go parading around the street with a gun anymore.

 

@Death

Where / when did the DA claim RIttenhouse was a member of the Proud Boys. Please provide a source for this claim.

 

Then produce the evidence of what you claimed happened. Otherwise stop claiming it happened. Because that DOES make you a liar. I’ll agree your interpretation of events and disagreement with others doesn’t make you a liar.

However, stating something happened definitively with no evidence backing it up does make you a liar. So either produce the evidence or stop claiming it happened if you don’t want to be called a liar.

 

Your guesses and bets are worthless. You are utterly ignorant of the facts of the case.

 

Of course not, just make up claims and then refuse to defend them....