"'I'm gay. Get over it,' Pennsylvania senator casually comes out"

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by TheChairman, Sep 24, 2014.

  1. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Again, knee jerk emotional reaction backed by nothing but your own hubris.

    Keep trying.

    We will keep winning court cases.
     
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    Liberals are the ones who are so emotionally invested in enabling the homosexual to use them in their hatred of conservatives that they cannot have any kind of open and rational discussion. They ONLY thing these people want to do is yell and scream at you and call you a bigot every single time you disagree with them. So I am through trying to be irrational. It accomplishes nothing and impresses nobody. You can not have any kind od rational discussion with ANYBODY who only wants to hear one thing, and that thing they want to hear, is somebody saying yes sir I shall obey you and agree with you every word.




    Can you get more heterophobic than this? This is an uneducated an unintelligent comment that has no substance to it from the typical hypocritical liberal.
     
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    Why do people inform other people what gender they prefer to have intercourse with? Why do other people who aren't having intercourse with that individual care that that individual has intercourse with a certain gender? What I don't get is that there is an expected reaction or change from other people. It's not just that X person has sex with Y person, but X person informs Z person that X person has sex with Y person, and Z person needs to accept that. Why? Shouldn't you be busy crafting legislation that will benefit your constituents? Do your job, and keep what is private to yourself.
     
  4. CausalityBreakdown

    CausalityBreakdown Banned at Members Request

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    Why do you think LGBT people getting the same legal advancement and protection black people get is oppressing straight people?
     
  5. Johnny-C

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    If YOU were listening to what he said (the actual meaning of the comments expressed), you would not have to ask the above question.

    He did a right/good thing.

    And the immediately above... is just STUPID talk.
     
  6. Battle3

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    My claim that religion is genetic has as much basis in fact as claiming homosexuality is genetic.

    Stop your double standard. Stop being scared by the political correctness police. Open your mind, think and recognize the trap you are living in.
     
  7. Polydectes

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    Homophobia is an illness suffered by people who are themselves gay and cannot accept their homosexuality. I've been there. I used to believe that there was some conspiracy of gay people trying to make me gay.

    I would say homophobia is absolutely a mental illness. It creates delusions paranoia narcissism and other such psychological problems.

    But yes absolutely at one time I thought the world was trying to make me gay. I've recovered from that.
     
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    Open your mind and realize that your religion...is ONLY YOUR religion.

    It does not have power of anyone else.

    Until then you aren't going to get anywhere here.
     
  9. Polydectes

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    So? It's genetic than, who cares, I am not trying to ban you from marrying or worship who ever you worship.

    Stop YOUR double standard.
     
  10. Battle3

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    Irrelevant. Prove that my belief in God is not the result of evolutionary or genetic compulsions. Prove that homosexuality is not a choice. You can do neither. Both religion and homosexuality are lifestyles with political impact. If you ban one from the public sphere, you must ban the other.
     
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    Maybe not you personally, but the gay activists certainly are trying to muzzle and destroy all who not only oppose them but publicly fail to endorse the gay lifestyle and agenda.

    But that's not the argument, and you miss the point. Religion and homosexuality are lifestyles whose communities are politically and publicly active. If you ban one from the public arena, then you have to ban the other. The argument that homosexuality is exempt from the ban is based on the false claim that homosexuality is genetic - a totally unproven claim. The idea that a belief in God is based on evolution and/or genetics has equal standing to the claim that being gay is not a choice.

    Its not "my" double standard. Its the gay activists double standard (and one of many they have).
     
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    CausalityBreakdown Banned at Members Request

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    Genetics is the null hypothesis because no logical person would choose to be an oppressed minority. The burden of proof is on you
     
  13. Polydectes

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    So are You arguing to ban religion from the public arena? It never has been before, and it really isn't now. The bans against homosexuality have been lifting lately (by lately I mean in the past 6 decades).

    Religion and homosexuality aren't mutually exclusive either. Many homosexuals are religious, regardless of how homosexuality conflicts with your beliefs.

    You are free to have those beliefs others are free to have theirs. It seems you want others beliefs to not be respected by the state. Yet you want the state to respect yours.

    If you want to see a double standard, you have but to look in the mirror.
     
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    Personally, I could care less if homosexuality is genetic, environmental, or the mystic work of purple unicorns. I know better than any assclown that says it's a choice. I have lived it, I spent the greater part of two decades trying not to be gay only to find out it isn't possible. That's my opinion, it's more informed than some pious parrot. Take it or leave it.

    I appreciate the sentiment, but pious parrots have been taught to squawk for their cracker. Thus arguing with snow tires seems to be more productive.
     
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    I make no claims for special treatment based on religion or sexual orientation. The people making those claims have the burden to prove they deserve special treatment.
     
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    Go back and read the trail of my responses so that you can respond in context. I am not arguing that religion be banned. I am arguing for a single standard applied equally to all.
     
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    Than you are contradicting yourself.
     
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    We only want equal treatment.
     
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    so your saying Blacks wanting equal rights was bad, but this is worse?
     
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    The right to marry your partner and the right not be considered a lower class of human for the kind of people you're attracted to are not special treatment.
     
  21. Battle3

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    Then lobby your congressman to have homsexuality removed as a federal hate crime category, and have LGBT removed from as a special category from Title 7 of the civil rights act. And while you are lobbying for "equal" treatment, tell your Congressman you oppose extra special favoured status for gay illegal immigrants.

    Then you might as well tell GLAAD and the other homofascist organizations that you abhore their vigilante crucifiction of innocent people simply because these victims did not perfectly and at all times past and present endorse the gay agenda.

    I won't hold my breath waiting for you to do these reasonable and just actions. Nobody is fooled by the gay whine for "equal treatment".

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    What's the matter? Too lazy to read the thread?

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    Thats not the topic of discussion. Read the thread.
     
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    See, when you unironically said "Homofascist" and "Gay Agenda", your forfeited your right to be taken seriously.

    All minorities that need to be protected by law, such as ethnic minorities and whatnot, are part of the civil rights act. If you want to change that, you need to discard of the entire concept of hate crimes. Have fun with that.
     
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    I would, but I live I Texas, my congressmen don't really need my lobbying. Frankly I oppose the "hate crime" nonsense all together. The reason why you murder somebody shouldn't matter.

    I have, they don't represent me. I do find it "abhorrent."

    Why would you automatically assume I wouldn't?

    Equality is equality, we won't be equal if we are labeled a special class, frankly I find that quite insulting.
     
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    It seems you actually want true equality. In that case I jumped to the wrong conclusion. I apologize.

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    Do you want equality or not? If you support the concept of special protected classes, then you do not want equality or the rule of law - one law applied equally to all regardless of status.
     
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    No person would choose to be an oppressed minority? I might agree that homosexuality isn't a choice, but this statement is false. Christians in Africa choose to be killed rather than convert.
     

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