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  1. DEFinning

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    Well that's the last time I let a politician's expert opinion mak ope me question my own judgement (about OH). So, I'll start by admitting, Trump's results seem a bit better than I had expected.

    But here's the potential-- if unlikely-- HUGE story. IF Trump holds onto Nebraska's 2nd district's single elector, he would be in a position, w/o winning any of the upper Midwestern states except Iowa, to create a 269 to 269 electoral TIE!

    The caveat to that (besides having to win1of Maine's electors) is that Trump would need to take PENNSYLVANIA, which I don't see happening. However, since numerous PA counties have announced plans to count today's votes first-- which are widely anticipated to skew in favor of Trump-- and wait for tomorrow to start on the early vote-- which are presumed to be strongly in favor of Biden-- there is the chance for a less than clear-cut, even disputed, result.
     
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    A nail bitter upload_2020-11-4_0-36-52.png
    So far.
     
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    Razor-thin margins here. Current CNN tallies are 224 for Biden, 213 for Trump. Of the outstanding 101 electoral votes, CNN is not accounting for 7 of them (though I think 4 might be Maine's, which can actually be split). 11 more from AZ look to be going Biden's way, which would bring us to 235 to 213. Of the other 83 that CNN is covering, Biden's 25k lead in NV just shrunk to 11k. In Wisconsin, where Biden had seemed just about out of it, he got a count for a bundle of mail-in ballots from Milwaukee that made up over a 100k deficit, & put him up by 10k (which is now down to 8,440).

    OK, they finally explained the 7 votes: 4 for ME & 3 for AK. And, just to get a clear picture of the end-game, while not official, they assigned NC to Trump, along with Alaska, and 3 of Maine's 4 to Biden.(They also figured AZ to Biden, & are saying, since he's held the lead all night, Biden will eek out a victory in NV, as well). That would put Biden at 244 and Trump at 231, with 4 states outstanding (+1 more electoral vote from Maine): PA (20 E.V.s)
    GA (16)
    MI (16)
    WI (10)
    So, of that 63 remaining, Biden would need 26, & would win if he could hold that tiny, 11th-hour lead he recently took in Wisconsin + either Michigan-- in which he trails by 207k votes, w/ over 80% reported, but w/ the out standing vote coming from predominantly strong Democratic areas--
    or Georgia-- which also has it's outstanding vote coming from Dem strongholds like Atlanta, but there's less of it to still out there (though Biden's deficit is also smaller: about 117k or so).

    Even though Biden still says he feels confident he'll take Pennsylvania, he's down by almost 700k which, even with a quarter of the vote outstanding, the anchor, Chris Cuomo, doesn't see as very realistic.

    Updates expected from both MI & WI within the hour.
     
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    Looks like Wisconsin is blue.
     
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    "Christina Bobb calls out delays in key battleground states as Democrat leaders delay the vote count when Trump is ahead. Conservatives need to step up and take action, or risk sitting back and watching Democrats steal the election."
     
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    VOTE UPDATE:

    Maricopa County, Arizona just began releasing a batch of over 400,000 votes that came in over this past weekend. The first 75k of them favored Trump by a 59%- 41% percentage (if Steve Kornacki's math can be trusted). This indicates that the overall group should favor Trump. But, in order to make up the roughly 90k vote advantage Biden currently holds, they must average slightly above that, in Trump's favor.

    I don't think it will ultimately change the result, but nor would I recommend, in regards to these things, that anyone should trust what I think.
     
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    THUR, OCT 5, 2PM UPDATE

    CNN Reports approx. 50k uncounted ballots remain in GEORGIA. With President Trump's current margin of 13,540, Biden would need to average about 63.5% of those outstanding votes to attain a victory.

    The lion's share of those untallied ballots come from the Atlanta area, & other strongly-Democratic areas. These are also predominantly mail-in ballots, which also have been strongly favoring Biden. According to CNN's data, Biden has been over-performing the needed threshold among ballots from the areas remaining, overall. In other words, there is a significant reason to think Biden may actually overtake Trump in Georgia's vote tallies (at least until the recount).

    Should Biden win Georgia, his official electorate total would become 269. This would require Trump to win All remaining uncalled states, in order to just achieve a TIE, which would then go to the House of Representatives
     
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    US election: Global media react to neck-and-neck election race

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-54795535

    Trump has achieved being the center of attention -center stage- world wide , attention he so craves . The concern is the uncertainty this anxiety in the world creates. As expected the legal s will be busy trying to get Trump a win. This nail biter has the feel of a blood sport ;-)
     
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    Trump's lead in Georgia shrinks to less than 4,000 votes. Pennsylvania could finish nearly all counting by Friday.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...lection-results-n1246510?cid=eml_nbn_20201105

    It might be taking longer but it means that the counting is being careful and thorough. (regardless of what Trump is saying. Trump wants it to be fraudulent so he can declare himself a winner by default))

    But the process is working and working well. They have good controls in place too.
     
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