Impasse

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by garyd, Jan 24, 2024.

  1. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My point was that it is truly not practical to view current events through a lens that is not filled with propaganda,

    I would say that my point stands unless your only viewing comes from St Louis Fred. To me, avoiding propaganda is NOT a realistic option. I would instead promote the notion of learning how to understand the propaganda from both sides to the point that you can sift through and form your own opinion separate from whatever that propaganda feeds you.

    One thing is for certain, if you spout nothing but propaganda from either side, you have NOT stumbled upon the truth.
     
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    I fully agree with this.
     
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    There was no attempt to steal the 2020 election that is left wing propaganda. Since ole Joe is not infrequently sitting there during those calls I'd say the answer is obvious to anyone with a brain.
     
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    Not sure of that last I took a lot of hours of science in college so I already had some knowledge before I started watching those shows so I had some knowledge base to begin.with and some of the science shows are pretty awful. So are some science articles. Like the one I saw recently on pocket, that asked the remarkably silly question. Why was it so cold in the US and so warm in much of the rest of the world. That is not only not a mystery it is something an junior high school student should know assuming they still teach geography these days.

    Also you can't expect your leaders to behave morally if there is no one willing to hold them accountable when they do wrong.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, the criminal charges and sentencing was fair fake?
    There's hope yet.

    I'll admit there was some fishing. Nevertheless Trump hangs with crims and was very likely aware that Cohen was doing dirty work for him. That'll do me.
     
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    We heard Trump on the phone.

    Trump could be constructive and offer workable solutions to improve security, but he isn't.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    one guy got fourteen days and is still on appeal. Manafort went to jail for things that happened more than a decade before Trump came down the escalator.
     
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    Yes that accusation has already been dealt with try again.
     
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    Of all of those only manafort and gates were convict of anything to do with Russia and that crime happened a decade before he worked for Trump. Popadopolous plead guilty to something minor and got 14 days, Stone was convicted of lying to congress and is appealing. Cohen was convicted of tax fraud and something to do with taxi medallions in NYC, I've never even heard of the other two.
     
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    Dealt with like this...?

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    The really big things presidents do wrong the public doesn't care about.

    In the 1960s President Johnson started a big war in Vietnam that killed
    well over 3 million Vietnamese, no problem.

    G W Bush started two wars, no problem.
    Bill Clinton moved NATO closer to Russia, no problem

    Bill Clinton had some fun with a woman: BIG PROBLEM!
     
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    I see I came late to the party as you’ve already been served quite handily by other posters. Lol!

    No one’s been sentenced for Russian collusion. Time to wake up from that nice little dream you’re having!
     
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    A lot of people cared about the Vietnam War back in the day, although not enough to stop it.
    Expanding NATO is what Europeans wanted. If they didn't want it, the expansion wouldn't have happened.
     

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