Impeachment

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  1. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All good points Jeanette. My point was it was very careless of Trump to personally make the call to Ukraine instead of having someone else make the call so he can deniability.
     
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    If your figures are right, Amish from Michigan who quite the GOP because he don't like Trump to become an independents has stated he would vote for impeachment. It takes 218 total AYE votes on any one article of impeachment. So that leaves 17 more to go. They don't all have to be Democrats either.
     
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    The Biden investigation was not properly closed. Biden fiscally threatened Ukraine and they fired the prosecutor.
     
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    Have to admit they are giving it their best shot now though.
     
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  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There was no reference to the military aid, that's a false assumption that being propagated by the Democrats.

     
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  7. Jeannette

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    Trump should do everything in his power to investigate Biden, because the criminality doesn't stop with his son. Half of Washington is involved and they must be shaking in their boots.

    According to the investigative reporter Robert Parry, Burisma Holdings that Biden's son works for, is the company that was passing big bucks around Washington during the Obama administration, to keep the blame on Russia for shooting down the airliner in Ukraine.

    It's funny that Trump would put Zelensky on a spot like that, because his presidential run was supported by the same criminal oligarch that owned Burisma Holdings at the time.

    Is this the real story around the impeachment proceedings? Is the web larger than anyone can imagine? How many in Washington might be involved? Well we are never going to know without an investigation - and it has to start with Biden. How else can Trump clean the swamp?
     
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  8. osbornterry

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    Thank you for asking the questions that PRESIDENT TRUMP (and many others who saw Biden bragging about blackmail on camera) wants answers to. I couldn't have put it better myself.

    Just because someone is running for president, that does not give them a pass on investigation/prosecution for corruption.
     
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    Touche!
     
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    Risked their career?

    If the demos did win in 2020, they'll re-name Pennsylvania Avenue after them and give them a fat book deal.
     
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    Why did the IMF threaten Ukraine, Why would the EU threaten Ukraine to fire the same persecutor. They did not say to stop the prosecution, but fire the prosecutor. What did the EU and the IMF want biden Jr not prosecuted?

    Do you think the only company that the previous prosecutor was threatening with prosecution was Biden's. Or was it so widespread that The EU and the international monetary fund bankers all want this guy fired?

    Hey, as a Tulsi supporter I would love to see Biden out of the race and his backers up for grabs. But now I think Trump is shooting his wad on the Ukrakine and he should have went after the 1.5bill hedge fund that was given biden JR and arriving on airforce 2.
     
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    Now we've got on tape how Biden took 1b$ of tax payer money to pay for firing the prosecutor who was investigating his son.
    And Biden is stupid enough, or maybe cocky enough to boast about it.
    The US corruption is just as bad as third world country.
     
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    Why hasn't Trump given the evidence against Biden to his AG?
     
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    How many of them had children on a board collecting a fat pay check for nothing?

    Sean Hannity has one of America's last investigative journalists on tonight with documents showing that Hunter Biden's legal team knew he was being investigated for his role at Burisma Oil and that he was going to be interviewed just before his dad blackmailed prosecutors.

    Instead of wild accusations, have a fair investigation of Biden et fils and let the chips laisser tomber. The US Senate would be a fair venue. They can call witnesses and investigate.

    How does that sound?
     
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    Suspicious. Why doesn't Hannity turn his evidence over to the FBI?
     
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    Based on Biden's foolish bragging about blackmail on camera, PRESIDENT TRUMP asked Ukraine's president to investigate. If there's proof, there's proof. If not, not.

    Some evidence may come to light tonight. Sean Hannity has one of America's last investigative journalists on tonight. He says he has proof
    The Hunter Biden's legal team knew their client was being investigated for corruption at Burismo Oil and prosecuters were preparing to interview him. That was just before dad stepped in.

    I say let the chips fall.
     
  18. stone6

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    I think you mean Viktor Shokin, who apparently was fired at the insistence of the U.S. (including For Biden), the European Union and the International Monetary Fund. Are we now to include the EU and IMF in the "Deep State?" The prosecutor who took Shokin's place, from May 2016 until last month, did investigate both Biden's son and the company and just told Bloomberg News that he found no illegal activities. Seems to be some disagreement on whether or not he began a new investigation at the request of Giuliani last March. The NYT says he did; he says no.
     
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    What is the source for that ?? And why would Biden fully admit that he influenced the Ukrainian government by threatening not to guarantee a billion dollar loan unless they fired the prosecutor who was looking into corruption of placing Biden's son who had no experience of any kind in the natural gas industry on the Board of Directors of Burisma at $50,000 per month.
     
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    You added something to my post. That's not allowed you know? I never wrote the underlined part:

     
  21. osbornterry

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    We're not talking about the EU or the IMF. We're talking about Joe Biden, his son Hunter and his threat to pull $1 billion dollars (American) from the Ukraine if they did not fire the prosecutor investigating corruption at Burisma Oil including Hunter's position. No one at the EU or IMF has bragged about their roles on camera.

    All that is needed is a fair investigation of Joe and Hunter (preferably in the Senate) and then let the chips fall.

    Why all the smoke screens?

    BTW:

    Sean Hannity has one of America's last journalist investigators (you remember them?)on his show tonight who says he will produce documents tonight that show Hunter's legal team knew Hunter was under investigation at Burisma and about to be interviewed when his dad blackmailed the Ukrainians.

    Would you like to watch, or shall I give you a summary?
     
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    I'll wait for him to hand them over to the FBI. Shokin was mistrusted by the U.S. government, the EU and the IMF for not investigating Ukrainian corruption enough. But, I'm sure that's going to come out. Maybe Hannity will expose him? The prosecutor who followed him and only left last month was interviewed by Bloomberg News and told them that he found no corruption on the part of Biden's son and that the corruption that had occurred in the energy company, occurred 2 years prior to Biden's son joining the board.
    You apparently forgot about the Trump request regarding "Crowdstrike."
     
  23. osbornterry

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    You're still talking past accusations of Biden's blackmail. Just let the Senate investigate and let the chips fall.

    Are you afraid of this?
     
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    Except that France, Germany, England and the IMF and EU were all threatening to hold back military and financial aid until Ukraine got a prosecuter who would start dealing with that countries rampant corruption. So they must all be in on the conspiracy, right? There is absolutely no evidence that Biden's son did anything wrong unless you know something I don't.

    Trump draining the swamp.......haha..good one.
     
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    No, but it's a separate issue. It doesn't answer the question of why was the aid suspended and why Trump didn't call Barr, instead of Giuliani?
     

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