In 2024, Israel Showed Us What Anti-Fascism Really Means

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    In 2024, Israel Showed Us What Anti-Fascism Really Means

    To the dismay of their preening critics, Israel laid the wood on racial haters in a way, with a determination and a martial effectiveness like the world hasn't seen since WWII.

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    They raped and mass murdered unarmed innocent Jewish young women and girls simply because they were Jewish and because the Fascists wanted to rape and murder.

    '2024 will be seen as a watershed year in the battle against fascism. More fascist-adjacent killers and loons were bumped off over the past 12 months than in any other year in my lifetime. From the leader of an army of anti-Semites that tells its followers to buy cheap knives and ‘cut off the heads of Jews’ (Yahya Sinwar) to the spiritual head of a self-styled ‘Party of God’ that longs to excise those ‘cancerous’ Jews from the Middle East (Hassan Nasrallah), it’s been a rough year for neo-fascist nuts. And about time, too.'

    Those folks have long needed killing, and now they are dead.

    Israel showed REAL anti-Fascism.
    Israel showed why the world collectively decided, after Hitler, that Israel must exist as a nation so that the Jewish People have the ability to resist the Fascists that long to exterminate them, simply for being Jews.

    Now the world knows what real anti-Fascism looks like.

    'Now, thankfully, anti-fascism means something again. Largely courtesy of Israel’s war on the Jew-hating belligerents at its borders, a real fight with fascism has replaced the neurotic street theatrics of the affluent activist class that falsely called itself anti-fascism. The IDF has throttled entire movements that were founded with the expressly fascistic intention to kill Jews and erase their homeland.'

    'This year we bid adieu to Yahya Sinwar, the head of Hamas in Gaza; the man widely suspected of being the architect of 7 October, the worst mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust. It seems likely that Mohammed Deif was also hurried off this mortal coil by the IDF. He was the leader of the al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, which did so much of the raping and butchering on 7 October.'

    'Many other Hamas gunmen were despatched – up to 17,000. This gutting of an army whose founding covenant committed it to a ‘very great and very serious… struggle against the Jews’ is better anti-fascism than emptying a can of soup on gender-critical activist Posie Parker. Hamas has made good on its genocidal loathing countless times in recent years, murdering hundreds and hundreds of Jews on buses, in nightclubs, at music festivals, in their own homes. Israel’s war on Hamas, in defiance of the faint-hearted bourgeoisie of the Western world who’ve spent the past year cravenly calling on the Jewish State to cease fire, is a blow to modern fascism and a boon for humanity.'

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    Isreal has de.onstrated they are warriors, and they defend their own. They are willing to face adversity and continue forward in the defense of their nation and thier people.

    I have the utmost respect for them
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now that Hamas is pretty much destroyed, it's time for Israel to end all of the racist apartheid policies. And end the Occupation.
     
  4. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel is a country that is for Jewish people, although some of its citizens are Arabs. Jewish people will remain the majority of the population, and they will always be in charge of the government. Any suggestion that those things be changed is a non-starter.

    You mean the West Bank and Gaza? OK, then what happens to those areas? Do they become their own nation? OK. Do you know what that means? That means that the Palestinians in this new nation must be ready to take on all the responsibilities and commitments of a legitimate, recognized nation. They must be at peace with Israel, respecting its right to exist and its borders - now and forever. It would mean that the struggle against Israel was over, for good. Being at peace with Israel would mean that it would be the duty and commitment of the Palestinians to enforce the peace on their side of the border. That means not teaching their children to hate and want to kill the Jews. It would mean suppressing, capturing, putting on trial, and imprisoning their own citizens, militants who threatened or who actually attacked Israel or its citizens. It would mean that terrorism spawned in their nation would not be tolerated. It would mean creating a fair and democratic process of choosing their leaders and replacing them if and when they want to.

    Do you think they're ready to take on those responsibilities?
     
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    As long as religion exists, there will never be peace in the Middle East. They've been at war with each other for thousands of years. Religion is why we can't have nice things. Neither side will be happy until they've killed the other side down to the last man.
     
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    The Israeli declaration of independence declares equality for all citizens, regardless of religion, race, ethnicity. Are you saying this was a lie?



    Much of East Jerusalem, most of the West Bank, all of Gaza will be the State of Palestine.
     
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    You know damn well that Palestinians, nor any other Arab peoples, would not be content with a two-state solution. The attacks against Israel would continue. They want Israel gone. Period.
     
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    Just a glimpse of the breast of the woman with the Star Of Moloch on her back.

    It's fascinating to see human behavior which worships its masters as we see with this thread. Voltaire's quip was spot on, to learn who rules you, find out who you may not criticize. In a House bill passed this year it will be illegal to criticize Israel. It's already illegal in Florida, Texas and 25 other states to criticize Israel, as those states are governed by Israelite individuals like DeSantis, Abbott and Noem. Yes, right here in the Land Of The Free and Home of the Silent, the First Amendment has been rendered Not Applicable in those states and in the House, and next year the Israelite Donald will likely sign the federal bill into "law" once the 96% Israelite Senate passes it.

    The OP confuses anti-fascism with Israelite barbarity, and has convinced himself that the Israelites are our allies, as he conveniently convinced himself that the Official Narrative regarding the attacks on the USS Liberty and the attacks at WTC are authentic and true. Yes it's true, it's easier to fool a man than it is to explain to him how he has been fooled.
     
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    They would indeed be content with all of Gaza, most of the West Bank and parts of East Jerusalem as their state.

    Israel has never officially offered them this deal.

    Even Hamas said if the Palestinian people accept this via referendum, they would abide by it.
     
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  10. Seth Bullock

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    No. The key is "all citizens". Israel will maintain a country primarily for Jewish people, and with a large majority of the population being Jewish. Israel's citizens do have equality regardless of race or religion, but Israel is going to manage the complexion of its citizenry, keeping the large majority Jewish. Suggesting otherwise is a non-starter.

    Do you think the Palestinians are ready to take on the responsibilities of peaceful and legitimate nationhood that I talked about?
     
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    So, we are ruled by black people, illegal migrants, and LGBTQ, are we?
     
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    I highly doubt that. The first attack against Israel would be by Hamas or some other terrorist organization.
     
  13. Ronstar

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    If Israel gave them all of Gaza, most of the WB and a nice fair chunk of EJ? Yep.

    However, all citizens of Israel must be treated with complete equality and respect. No more preferences for Jews and discrimination against Arabs can be allowed.
     
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    Israel made peace with Egypt, the attacks from Egypt stopped.

    Israel made peace with Jordan, the attacks from Jordan stopped.

    Precedent shows when Israel makes real peace, they get real peace.
     
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    Pretty sure that had more to do with Israel handing their collective butts to them in a war that lasted only 6 days...
     
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    Nobody gets everything they want in a negotiation. The Palestinians would do well to trade some of their wish list for peace.

    21% of Israel's full blown citizens are Arabs. They vote, and they are represented in Israel's Knesset. But Israel will always remain a primarily Jewish state with a Jewish majority.
     
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    So you can point out a thriving population of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion/government, in the region surrounding Israel?

    What happens to protestors in the Middle East? What happens to those who criticize Islam?

    The anti-Israel side is not in a position to criticize on any of these issues. BTW, I am an atheist. (A crime in much of the ME)
     
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    The Arabs are also treated as second class citizens. Discrimination against them is legal. There are benefits that only Jews can get. This is not equality.


    As to the peace process, the Arabs want the state to be based on the 1947 partition plan. Obviously they cannot get that. All of Gaza most of the West Bank and a chunk of East Jerusalem is not asking for too much.
     
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    As long as the "religion of peace" exists, there will never be peace in the Middle East? :cynic:
     
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    Maybe soon. There will be lasting peace.

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    As Jesus called for.
     
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    Can you point out a thriving population of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims, of people critical of religion/government in the region outside Israel?
     
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    Maybe. About 80 years ago, Germany and Japan were our mortal enemies, and we destroyed them. And look at us now. Wars can change things.
     
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    Fantastic Palestinian propaganda for gullible, poorly educated peopleI It is against US Constitution, but international Jewry forced the House to pass bill that it will make illegal to criticize Israel. Yes, right here in the Land Of The Free and Home of the Silent, the First Amendment has been rendered. PLEASE BELIEVE IT!

    And don't believe Israelis are US allies, Zionpedia lies:

    Israeli Mossad delivered secret Khrushchev speech to CIA
    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4959300

    Israel shared with the US information about Russian MIG-21 taken from Iraq in 1966:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Diamond

    Israel shared with the US information about Russian P-12 radar taken from Egypt in 1969:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rooster_53

    in 1970 Israel saved pro-USA Jordan from pro-Soviet Union Syria
    https://nypost.com/2001/01/03/jordan-asked-israeli-help-vs-syria-troops/

    In 1981 Israel destroyed Iraqi nuclear reactor. Iraq with nuclear arms would conquer not only Kuwait, but also Arabia Saudi and other oil producing countries:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera

    In 2007 Israel destroyed nuclear reactor in Syria:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Outside_the_Box
     
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    The future is always uncertain, so we are always free to look forward with hope.

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