In light of the recent "SQUIRREL SQUIRREL!!!!" attempt...

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  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    It is all the response that a particularly pathetic response warrants.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.

    The mythical popular vote is meaningless, and that is reflected in the legislative decisions that arise from a scenario where the winning President lost the mythical "popular vote". If you think that the popular vote total impacts the vote of even one Republican you are grossly mistaken. There is nothing there to legitimately argue. What you are arguing for is a fantasy where you think because your side won the mythical popular vote, that somehow this should gain you something legislatively. It does not. It is time to let the fantasy die its natural death. What you are talking about is wholly irrelevant. The only responsibility that any representative has is to serve their constituents. California's or Baltimore's constituents could not possibly be more irrelevant to a politician from elsewhere.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Heh.

    Had Democrats codified Roe in 2009 when they had the opportunity and votes to do so Roe wouldn't be in jeopardy today.

    For years and years they wagged their forked tongues at this issue, pretending that it was of the upmost importance to them (!), but when they had the opportunity to put it to rest once and for all they.....blew it off.

    They lied.

    You see, it's more useful and important to Democrats to keep this issue alive than to put it to rest once and for all, because the only people Democrats truly care about are Democrats, and the only thing Democrats care about is power.

    For the hook in your lip:

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    And in case you're wondering, I'm "pro-choice"....
     
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  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's mythical about it. Please don't tell me you believe in the Big Lie.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is mythical is that it does not exist. We have 50 different state elections as opposed to one national election, and everyone sets their campaign strategy with that aim in mind. This is like a baseball season where there is 162 games. You do not add up the total scores to determine who wins their division, rather you total up the number of victories. Adding up the total of all scores and then pretending like that has any bearing on anything is a mythical concept. It does not really exist in any official capacity, and it certainly does not impact anything.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But it does exist. It's a measure of where the majority of Americans stand on the presidential candidates and their policies.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You dont seem to understand the difference between statistics and the rules of the game. Statistics are interesting and many times discussed, but they are not taken into account for any official outcomes. Nobody says Tom Brady really lost the Super Bowl, or that his victory is tainted in any way just because the other teams outgained his team by a few yards. Truth be known if yards gained were actually the rules of the game, they would have changed their strategy and instead of taking a knee to run out the clock, they would have instead thrown a few passes to try to gain more yards. For that reason, if yards gained were the actual rules, you really dont know how that would have turned out because strategies would have been drastically different for both teams.

    When it is all said and done, the ONLY thing that matters is who won by virtue of the rules of the game. Analyzing statistics is the domain of the losers, while the winners are popping champagne corks in their locker room.
     
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    That's a very long winded way of saying you'd rather not acknowledge the problem in need of correction. The ability, due to structural inequities, of the minority to rule.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, its a not so long winded way of correctly explaining why it is fools gold to pretend like the mythical "popular vote" carries any actual meaning. It carries no significance whatsoever.
     
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    You do realize that a prez winning with a minority of the popular vote is an anomaly, right? The popular vote having meaning in the vast majority of national elections. Something that should happen 100% of the time.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I do realize that it has not happened many times.

    This changes nothing. It still is an irrelevant statistic. When a country is close to a 50/50 split as it is now, it will likely happen more frequently than it has throughout our history. In truth, it could happen the opposite way as well.

    Dont you remember the well-traveled mantra when Trump was pulling close in popular vote polling in 2016 that "he has no path to 270"? The possibility was apparently not such a travesty then.

    The electoral college does not automatically favor Republicans. 2 anecdotal instances does not prove much of anything in that regard.

    Donald Trump's Electoral Map: Paths to 270 Are Impossibly Narrow | National Review

    Trump Has Path to 270, But No Vehicle to Get There | RealClearPolitics

    There is no possible way Donald Trump’s team actually believes this is their path to 270 - The Washington Post



    The ONLY thing that matters is the path to 270. Everything else is window dressing.
     
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    Of course it does.
     
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    LOL, yes. You need to provide evidence a crime occurred. What Country do you think you live in? In this Country, the accuser has to provide evidence that backs their claim a crime occurred. LOL
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As evidenced by two examples of such.

    In other news, I flipped a coin and it came up heads twice. Therefore, "of course" a coin flip favors heads. We need to change the rules of flipping coins NOW! (sarcasm)
     
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