In Signing Sweeping Tax Bill, Trump Questions Whether He Is Getting Enough Credit

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You just are consistant with those that want to overturn an election. You'd overlook Oprah sucking face with Harvey Weinstein if it would help you acheive your goal. Trump financed an operation for Haiti that helped hundreds have their sight restored. If there are loopholes and write offs....only a fool would not take advantage of them. You just want to spout anything bad about Trump. You totally ignore the efforts of the previous administration to spy on private citizens, an FBI that obtained a search warrant on the basis of a phony dossier, and an IRS that persecuted Conservatives.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you know how much Oprah has hoarded?
     
  3. Renee

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    What does Oprah have to do with this? We don’t have any reason to ask her for her tax return but if she would run for president we would expect it. I don’t know how much money she has hoarded as you say but I do know how much money she has contributed to helping girls throughout the world. Trump also helped young people with trump university
     
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    Oh you mean like Obama spying on Trump? We all had a good laugh over that it sounds like you are even below FOXNews. You sound like you watch that it nut job with all these weird conspiracies. No wonder Trump loves people like you. You believe anything. Watch out I think Obama is listening while tapping your phone ..be afraid, be afraid, be afraid,,,the bogeyman is coming!
     
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    Your powder is wet and you have bullet holes in your feet.
     
  6. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is avoidance for sure!
     
  7. Renee

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    Like you avoided sharing how much oprah is “hoarding”. I bet you think bill gates is a hoarder too.
     
  8. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Renee....calm down please.
    I never said Oprah is a hoarder. Denizan, who is apparently a leftist anti-capitalist, implied Trump hoards his billions and Oprah doesn't. I merely stated "how do you know how much Oprah hoards? If someone earns the money, I feel it is completely up to them how much they hoard. I do know God loves a cheerful giver though.
    Of course Denizan never responded to me.
     
  9. Renee

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    You said how do you know how much Oprah has hoarded?That’s like my asking do we know how many times you cheated on your wife?
     
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    You are silly. Do you still beat your husband? Yes or no only, please.
     
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  11. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Renee....it was implied that everyone that maintains a possesion (like you and me) are hoarding. I resent that. I am a capitalist and anything I have is mine to hoard.....it is my choice. No ones business. Oprah is wealthy and I don't hold that against her. Perhaps you should not hold it against Trump either.
    Go ahead and ask me how many times I've cheated on my wife.....It has never been in my make-up to ever cheat on my wife. I married her in public and more importantly, before God.
     
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  12. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Renee doesn't beat her husband....the only thing white she beats is maybe....a golfball.LOL
     
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  13. Renee

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    Now, now boys, you’re being bullies and so bitchy.
     
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  14. Renee

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    You are being disingenuous when you use the specific word hoarding. You know that hoarding usually means secretive I invest money and I save money But if someone said I hoarded money I would know they were being derogatory
     
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    I'm sorry Renee, when I think of the word hoarding....I think of" keeping for oneself". Example: a squirrel will "hoard" nuts for the winter. I just don't want to be misunderstood, let alone "bitchy". I'll leave that to the likes of Chelsea Manning!
    But when you invest money, do you post it on Facebook? Of coarse you don't. You are relatively secret about that. It's called privacy. No bodys business. And....I hope you and hubby take every advantage of every write off and loophole legally available. Sometimes it's easier to find an accountant or lawyer that is well versed in our overly complicated tax system that's meant to rob us blind.....but limited government will eventually take care of that!
    I'm hurt to think you see me as disengenuous.:frown:
     
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  16. Renee

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    When my husband runs for president he will show his tax returns. When someone runs for president and that might be conflicts of interest with foreign governments it is relevant
     
  17. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You supported Obama when the Constitution reads you will have both parents-natural born citizens. He didn't. When your husband runs for President, he will have the left wing media covering for him and I will not vote for him..... so he loses.
     
  18. Renee

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    What? It does not say that you have to have both parents natural born citizens. Let’s use some common sense. Obama said that his father was kenyan...Doesn’t commonsense tell you that those opposed to him would cite that immediately? Educate yourself, it takes one minute. I’m almost embarrassed for you

    Here let me educate you..If you educate yourself I’m afraid Trump won’t love you anymore.......As directed by the Constitution, a presidential candidate must be a natural born citizen of the United States, a resident for 14 years, and 35 years of age or older. These requirements do not prohibit women or minority candidates from running.
     
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    No problem with women or minorities. The President must have one parent that is a natural born citizen. Guess that would have been Obama's absent white mot her, You educated me twice in one post! I am the luckiest man alive! Aren't you proud to be an educator?
     
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    At least you won’t sound foolish....you owe me!
     
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    When you keep dodging questions about your own assertion it certainly is

    So how was Bush supposed to veto the 2009 budget? You've yet to explain from that hole you have dug yourself.
     
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    no, just when you repeat arguments that have been completely and repeatedly demolished.
     
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    Then pay more taxes there is NOTHING stopping you from doing so. And as you noted persons coming from the worst poverty can lift themselves out of it and prevent themselves from being poor.
    What are some of the leading indicators one will be in poverty in the USA
    Single motherhood
    Criminal activity
    Drug and/or alcohol abuse
    Failure to take advantage of the free education offered to everyone

    Who should be blamed for those factoring into one's life?
     
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    Nope still waiting for your explanation of what you claimed he should have done and why he should be blamed for the $1,400B deficit it produced.

    So how was Bush supposed to veto the 2009 budget? You've yet to explain from that hole you have dug yourself.
     
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    My only opinion on the actual thread topic is that I have not read the entire tax reform bill that was passed however I will be doing my own taxes quite soon and will base my personal opinion on the results of that.

    Guaranteed to be a personal, biased and honestly selfish opinion. I don't care about anyones money but my own. None of my business. Maybe if leftists had any money they'd be less inclined to yell from the ramparts how people in a higher tax bracket owe society something.
     
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