In Your Lifetime, America Will Become a 3rd World S**t Hole

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    So, if people in power don't like you and file charges against you, that proves you are a crook. The biggest crime here- totally unprecedented in America- is what's being called "lawfare", the practice of prosecuting your political opposition, of character assassination.... all with the sole purpose of not hving to run against them.

    Apparently, you are OK with a government that does that. And if you can't see it- I can say your personal prejudice is the only reason possible, because it's as obvious as sunrise.
    You are buying into the con job that the democratic party has become.
     
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    Spoken like a true socialist.

    I'll never change the way I vote, how about your voting habits? Did you actually become a US citizen or are you just talking about voting (or filling mail ballots)?

    The problem is not tax rates, the problem is government (over) spending. The majority of government spending is wealth redistribution. Some goes to the people that historically vote Blue, some goes to the donor class, a lot goes to the MIC and the rest goes to various leech governments around the world.

    The government keeps running deficits (to buy votes, curry favor and enrich insiders) which means the government prints new dollars, adding to the total dollars in circulation. Thus the government creates inflation and devalues your wealth. The rich have assets, the rest have bills.

    Bloated government created inequality. It's quite ironic your side claims to be for the common man yet your policies are the cause of their destruction.
     
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    Yes, I'm OK with government going after criminals who break the law. Republicans used to be strong on crime until Trump came along. Now they look the other way. At least Democrats are consistent in applying the law to everyone, including other Democrats that I listed.
     
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    Sorry to say- I think you are totally lost in the snowstorm of BS on this. The left's leadership abandoned honor many years ago, and have become adults with irresponsible adolescent values. They have no idea what's right and wrong anymore- just what they can get by with. Individual or party, when you abandon honor and just values, you abandon self respect, and no longer have any metric or reason to regulate yourself. That's what we are dealing with today- a major political entity that no longer sees beyond the moment, and doesn't care. It wasn't that way years ago- but the democratic party as it was when I was a young man, and voted for many democrats like JFK- no longer exists.

    Tired of hearing dems blame Trump for what they are doing. Again.... spoiled brats do that and seen nothing wrong. What you do- IS who you are. Psychology 101.
     
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    It is Republicans that have no idea what's right and wrong anymore, including supporting candidates that are criminals. Your argument is so weak, you continue to ignore the list of Democrats like Blagovich, Trafficant, Weiner, and soon-to-be Melendez that other Democrats refused to defend, yet Republicans are completely comfortable defending their criminal politicians. Republicans also continue to defend the attack on our Capitol. You have zero room to speak about values, honor, or self-respect. Zero.
     
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    The left needs to see evil in the right- and it lacks the moral fiber to keep that need from distorting it. Shall I report your personal insult, which proves my point to the forum monitors? No. What you do is who you are. When the left labels what they don't like as criminal, they tell us a great deal about themselves.

    The party doesn't make the person a criminal, the person does that themselves. So there are people devoid of character everywhere. The party factor is more like a culture, which is more or less tolerant of evil and criminal behavior- and the more they tolerate it, the more they praise, excuse and promote it- the more dangerous that party becomes. The democrats have sunk so low as to openly use what's being known as "lawfare", using the law to defeat a political opponent. And while individual criminals can be discovered and ejected by an honorable government- when the government itself discards it's values and becomes the criminal, the nation is in mortal danger- as it is right now.

    Unlike the left- I'm not in favor of any party, I'm in favor of an honorable government regardless of party. I'm only anti-democrat right now because the dems and the left side have abandoned self-respect and honor, and in effect- have gone to the dark side. I've voted for several democrat presidents in the past, because generally I vote for who I think will do best for the nation. Today- the words "democrat" and "liberal" have become like warning labels saying the person who subscribes to those groups also rejects the most important values of society and will violate them for power over other people. An organization with low standards and high tolerance- attacts people with low standards who seek tolerance. Sadly, those people vote, and are willing to sell their vote to those who will promise them free benefits and loose standards. Lies, but those people will believe them. This is how evil comes to power in a democracy- and if enough people lose their moral compass, they will vote for leadership that has none. It's happening right now- some people fight to turn that tide, some people welcome it. That is a personal choice- YOUR choice.

    The nation has changed, Junior... from one where values were something you lived up to regardless of it being convenient or not, to one where they mean nothing if they don't help you win.
    The reason- is people. Weak people, ones who think that it's necessary to live off others, that they are entitled, that someone else should pay- and too stupid to know that the someone else will be them.

    Juvenile mindsets, in adult bodies- but they have failed to learn to be adults, to take responsibility, to regulate themselves out of character. While this exists in every group- it has become the dominant mindset of the left. That is appalling, because it is not only a danger to a nation, but to all those people who have allowed themselves to stay in that condition. Becoming an adult is not the same as becoming a man.

    Honor is a personal asset. It means you take responsibility for yourself, for everything you do, think say or feel- and you don't compromise that. To have it, and the benefits of it- you have to live by it, and I do. I have taught classes in personal strength and values for forty years- and my client list includes people like Boeing Aircraft, where I trained about 200 mid-level managers. I still do this on a limited basis at $150 an hour, but I give away the tools that will enable a person to do the same thing on their own. Part of this course teaches people how to read the character of others with very high accuracy, with very limited input. I use that skill on this forum and I'm rarely wrong. Everyone, unknowingly is telling you who they are, what their character is like, all the time. If you know where to look and how to read it- you know how they think and how they will respond....and that usually takes perhaps 2-3 minutes.

    Could be I know a bit more about honor than you think; see some things you have no idea are there.
    Not seeing things your way- that has nothing to do with honor on either side; it's the result of clarity, the observation of facts in the absence of bias. Bias is a position taken with exception to facts, and making up your own. I don't allow that in myself.
     
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    I didn't read much of this. It's a pretty long way of admitting that you support criminals as long as they share the same ideology as you.
     
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    Too bad you don't read better. You missed everything and chose to conclude what you prefer to think. Left does that all the time.
     
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    Your main argument seems to be that Democrats are juvenile while you ignore Trump's Twitter posts where he calls names and lashes out like a high-school girl. Your other argument claims Democrats are involved in some type of 'lawfare' yet you have no issue when the law goes after Democrat politicians like Trafficant, Blagovich, Weiner, and Melendez. All of your opinions center around your ideology. You have no consistency in any of your arguments.
     
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    And you are following the left's double denial standard like a trained puppy.
    My greatest fear for America comes from the fact that the generations who inherit this great nation have no values systems, no savvy of the real world- are going to piss the nation away without even understanding the are responsible for it. Maturity- is earned. It's not a gift, and obviously that's not understood anymore. It's a waste of time to try to illustrate value to such people They just don't care. They love to bitch, protest and argue- but they never do a damn thing towards building a better country.
     
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    If I thought like a Nazi I’d be committing war crimes. I only ask that this entitled continent take responsibility
     
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    I don’t see how I answered the question
     
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    While I agree with that objective and I've made great efforts to promote it.... I'm not seeing that as a trend in people- OR politicians. Just the opposite, moral standards are declining.
    Govenment is not only tolerating it, they are helping cause it.

    As the destruction that brings increases, there is a good chance that these airheads that believe the world will give them what they want if they just cause enough trouble may well become roving gangs in neighborhoods rather than colleges, seeking whatever they decide they need. Money, food, fuel. That is what happens when societies and governments break down.
    Best advice might be- to stock up on ammunition, fuel, storable food and survival gear.

    All it would take to reverse this is related to being responsible for what we do, how we act. That would start with leadership- Congress and President. Responsibility- has become unpopular.
     

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