First off, I'm a newbie at starting threads, so I looked up the rules, and I did the best I could as the only "copy" of the material I wished to present was in a video from the Stephen Colbert show. If I made a mistake in the title, or anything else, please let me know. The info I found that is the point of starting this starts a 4:30 of the video. The entire monologue is entertaining (mostly) but it's the part where a Russian pundit makes a statement, on Russian state tv, about AGAIN helping their "partner" Trump win the election early. Could be a mistake, but maybe not. Is this the Russians accidentally admitting they helped Trump win? And why do they refer to him as their "partner"? Not conclusive evidence, but interesting, and if I'm being partial, kind of damning. What do you think?
"... our partner, Trump." said the Russian pundit. Trump may not have been personally complicit in the Russian election interference in 2016, or even 2020, but that doesn't mean that Putin doesn't still see Trump as a "useful idiot."
I will agree on useful idiot language. I mean the DNC, Hils and media planned and executed a totally fabricated lie that resulted in crippling an elected President for more than 2 years and the useful idiots that bought into it still to this day tie Trump to Russia lol. Scary how gullible our electorate has become when faced with extreme political propaganda.
Not exactly a smoking gun, but telling. This is state run tv in Russia, so the talking points need to be state approved. I wonder what Putin and Trump discussed in their private meeting, the one that Trump disallowed any other Americans except an interpreter sworn to secrecy. Maybe they were talking about the Miss Universe pageant, or maybe he was thanking Putin for his "assistance". Or Trump Tower-Moscow. Or..... The problem with being secretive is it erodes confidence and trust.
My opinion is that Hillary, a person I have serious dislike for, did not totally fabricate a lie. They did "guild the lily" so to speak, but the Trump campaign, Trump and his associates brought much of that upon themselves without Hillary's help. There was some bs involved to be sure, but that doesn't mean Trump was innocent either. One thing Trump is good at, just like the OJ trial lawyers, is creating enough doubt to float just above the water level. That doesn't mean he has clean hands, just that the "proof" is elusive. There is a ton of evidence that points towards conspiracy, but Mueller's hands were tied. I'm not gonna list it all here, partly because I've done that several times, and also because most of the time it doesn't do any good as the reader doesn't want to read the links or doesn't want to see the information. I'm certain that you disagree, but that is my opinion, based on the facts that I've seen.
I find your post to be almost entirely "extreme political propaganda." There was little fabrication required to convince most thinking Americans that Russia/Putin really, really wanted Trump to win both elections, in addition to Putin saying that himself, very publicly. Trump's campaign manager provided valuable regional polling data to a known Russian operative wuth direct ties to the Kremlin and Putin. That data allowed Russian hackers to bombard social media in those regions where Trump was expected to lose with misinfirmation about Hillary. Plus, there's the infamous Trump Tower meeting arranged by Junior, whose intention was to get "dirt" on Hillary from the Russians. Those are proven facts. What has not been proven, and likely never will be, is what role, if any, Trump himself played in all of that.
Uh huh you guys truly crack me up. You literally did two years of investigation, the fbi, a special investigator and he literally determined there was no collusion. You got a couple lying to the FBI convictions about literally nothing and now we have the same convictions falling from the pushers of the false narrative from the Hils camp. I hoped the extreme left would finally understand that this whole thing was a charade and crippled our government causing serious divisions and danger for our country. It can't be allowed in the future, yet you still to this day think it justified for a political win. Sad day for our country.
None of that data was valuable in any meaningful way, you couldn't do anything with those raw numbers that essentially were pre-election numbers. There's such a thing as late voters for example(voters who decide what lever to pull on election day) that those raw numbers essentially miss.
Maybe he was talking with Putin about Satchel Paige like Biden did when he got his 15 minutes with the Pope.
Guess Who Democrats Will Blame for Their Midterm Election Losses? Russia! You think I'm kidding? On Sunday, the Associated Press claimed that "U.S. intelligence officials" have assessed that “Vladimir Putin may use the Biden administration’s support for Ukraine as a pretext to order a new campaign to interfere in American politics.” How much ridiculous crap has the lying fake news media, fed us over the last 5 years, blind sourced to "U.S. intelligence officials"? And how many lectures about "accepting election results"? Democrats are already pre-spinning their loss as "illegitimate" due to "Russian Interference". My goodness, they can't even be bothered to come up with new and fresh lies, they just recycle the old ones. The only question I have is, are their actually and "intelligence officials" that fed them this crap or did the AP make it up themselves? Even Bumbles Biden is trying to pre-spin the pending loss: Biden said that the results of the 2022 midterms would only be legitimate if the Democrats’ election reforms passed. And with bipartisan opposition there was no Democrat takeover, at the federal level of state and local elections, so our illegitimate president has already declared the upcoming midterms, illegitimate. He would not be declaring them so, if he thought the Dems were going to do well. Madcow's no better. She's been riding this crap for a half decade.
Mueller concluded no such thing. He may have pussied out on coming right out and saying it, but he did say, multiple times, that his report in no way exonerated Trump. You're quoting Bill Barr, Trump's pet AG. Manafort was tried and convicted. Other than Manafort, Barr wouldn't indict the participants in the Trump Tower meeting, so that investigation went nowhere. What "Hils camp"? She seems to have gotten over it. What false narratives do you mean? What does "You got a couple lying to the FBI convictions ..." mean? How does one lie to a conviction? Yes, I know you mean Strzok and Page, but you statement doesn't make sense. As for crippling the government: 1) Doesn't the right like it that way? 2) The crippling came when Trump basically fired everyone from the previous administration and replaced them with incompetent toadies and sycophants. We can't continue to let those in high office act without fear of the same consequences that would apply to you or me. We probably won't ever see Trump get what he deserves.
