#InIsrael ~~ MORE PINKWASHING TO COVER UP WAR CRIMES

these maps are ridiculous and fraudulent.

anyone wanna discuss why?

 

You'll never catch me driving a Nissan Sentra.

 

Then I'm not posting the following for you

Panel 1: The Green Area in Panel one is not ‘Palestine’ It is British owned, British occupied and British sovereign territory. Palestinians had no control over any of the land and where occupied citizens. As for the white areas, they depict majority jewish areas which is stupid to include on the map as separate from the green as they were still part of the British Mandate and their demographics changed nothing.

Panel 2: This was the first UN resolution proposed for an independent and separate Israel and Palestine. Israel said yes to this 50,50 option stating ‘We will take land the size of a tablecloth if it means having a home’. The Palestinians on the other hand said ‘No’ and invaded Israel 1 day after its recreation. The Israelis miraculously survived the invasion of 5 different countries. In fact the ruler of Egypt stated his intentions were to have another holocaust and purge the jewish people off of their land.

Panel 3: This was the land from 1949-1967. There was relative peace in this era and there were no settlements built. When in 1967 all FIVE of Israel’s neighbours (backed militarily by Algeria Kuwait Libya, Morocco, Pakistan, PLO, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Tunisia) Invaded simultaneously. This surprise attack had israel surrounded on all fronts. However once again Israel survived, and also once again this diagram LIES. Not only did Israel survive but in six days they captured all of the West Bank, Gaza, the Sinai and Golan Heights. All of this in self defence. In the diagram it labels the West Bank as being ‘Palestine’ NO. NO. NO. From 49 till 67 it was OCCUPIED by Jordan. That land was part of Jordan. Did Jordan have the right to be there? Did jordan rule fairly? Irrelevant. What matters it that that land was not palestinian it was jordanian. Also the diagram is false in labelling Gaza as also part of palestine. It was in fact occupied by Egypt as this time.

“We will not accept any… coexistence with Israel…Today the issue is not between the establishment of peace between the Arab States and Israel…The war with Israel in 1948 is still in effect.” -Gamal Abdel Nasser

Panel 4: Panel four is correct. The Green land IS soverignly palestinian and the white land is Israeli. If it were up to me, Israel would exchange land, such as the entire West Bank, for Peace. I do not condone any violence against civilians on either side and I hope for an independent and free Palestine but the fact is, Palestine hasn’t been disappering. Because it was never there. Never through out history has there ever been a palestinian state. EVER. The only time and I mean the ONLY time Palestinians had the right to their own soverigenty EVER was when Israel handed it to them .

Things this diagram ignores:

The fact that Israel gave away the entire sinai (land triple the size of Israel AND with oil) in exchange for peace

The fact that the only reason the arabs kept losing land in the region was because of non stop aggression and invasion.

The fact that nearly every offer for peace IN HISTORY has been put on the table by Israel.

https://freshonest.wordpress.com/2015/07/12/disappearing-palestine-myth-debunked/

 

The facts are, back when what is Israel today when it was Palestine occupied by Arabs, it wasn't green but a brown dry desert.

Under "the Law of Nature", Vattels "Law of Nations" Israel has become a sovereign nation considering that they turned a desert green producing the fruits of mother nature.

People who don't cultivate the land that they occupy are nothing more than vagabonds.

 

See, Ronstar? Now that's discussing.

My shift is coming up so I faer I can't,for now, give all the necessary time this post requires. But I'll do it later, if you don't mind.

 

let's try this again.

what does the white area in the map to the left, delineate?

 

The maps are as legit as Palestinian claims to be peace-loving, non-violent people

 

these maps are fraud, and I shall explain why.

they claim to show how much land was controlled by Palestine vs controlled by Israel.

map on the far left, show in white all areas OWNED by Jews. but what's in green? ot all areas owned by Arabs, but all areas owned by Arabs PLUS all areas that were state land in Mandate Palestine in 1947.

Now, what was state land in Mandate Palestine supposed to be used for? for the benefit of ALL citizens of Palestine, be they Arabs or Jews.

this map, makes believe the green land was just for the Arabs, and this is a total lie.

the second map on the left is accurate, as it shows how much of Palestine was to be given to the Arabs and the Jews.

the third map, shows land annexed by Egypt in 1967 and Jordan in 1969.

it was Arab land, but was not under the ownership or control of Palestinians.

map #4, shows Gaza and Area C and B of the West Bank, which are under full Palestinian control and Palestinian civil control but Israeli military control.

so as we can see, each map shows different things, which tells us the dishonesty of the total image

 

That's actually the end of discussion. Jew-haters have no rebuttal and retreat with their tails between their legs, beaten, humiliated and embarrassed.... again.

 

They are only trying to sell cars. Nothing more. Their marketing department thought it would be profitable to target a demographic other dealerships ignore. You are really reaching for this one.

 

Who exactly posted the picture of "pinkwashing" with the maps? Or wasn't that part of this specious and moronic OP in the first place? Guess you missed that.

WTF are you actually attempting to convey with the above convoluted nonsense?

 

The maps are accurate. The war criminality is real. Pinkwashing changes nothing.

 

you can keep repeating this till the cows come home, but the first map is NOT accurate and the third map represents Jordan and Egypt, not Palestine.

 

Okay - I'm back.

People can exist well before the creation of a de jure country, as the Jews did up until 1948. The map does not care about who is the central control, because it was subtle or, in any case, more subtle than in the present. The fact is that during this time, the green areas were lands populated by Arabs that would be later called Palestinians, Jordanians or nomadic.

I know it isn't your point but likewise, the fact that Jews bought the lands on the first map means nothing: You can buy land in the 'states but you can't make that land a foreign territory.

Well, I too would be pretty satisfied with half of your own house. 50/50 sounds fair to me. You okay with this? Good - I am going to send my lawyer along with a couple goons to help you comply. Everybody okayed the rape, so why did the victim protested? Savages.

Anyway, from my personal POV, this panel is superfluous, since it didn't happen. It's just to picture a diminishing part of green in the greater view. Oh and finally, about "Israel miraculously surviving: These "poor little jews" were in fact USSR vets, equipped enough to take a country like Italy. On the other sides, the Arabs have been disarmed by the British before WWII.

This is just anal bug hunt. The fact that it was Jordanian or Palestinian or whatever changing tag you want to dicriminate them by, the fact is that these green areas were the last ones where Arabs could call their own, and in this sense the "map" is right.

I aslo believe it is correct, but I don't buy your narrative.

The Israeli gave back the Sinai on international pressure and the fact that if the war continued, Egypt could have won the upper hand. The Israeli invasion force was exhausted.

Why is it then that land is stolen in the WB - that never have been so meek?

I don't think any of these offers were serious. All of them would have led to more land-grabbing by Israel, one way or another, specifically by insuring that Palestinian attacks would continue, thus prolonging a war that so far is good for Eretz Israel.

 

Not sure you needed to take the time to do all that, but thank-you and well done. The point is obvious which is that the Palestinians and their ancestors lived there for millennia.

The maps are absolutely real and show clearly what has happened.

 

It turns out that UC Berkeley is offering a course and this prestigious American University is using similar maps. That in itself is quite amazing and what is even more so is the fact that the Jewish lobby, through their armies of trolls had this class suspended. Thanks, however, to freedom loving individuals there, the class has been reinstated.

 

the "jewish lobby"???

don't you mean the "zionist lobby"???

sounds like anti-Semitism comment to me, as many Jews are not Zionists

 

And if you go back a bit more in time the map would be pretty much black because Jews resided there and governed it as a nation with common laws, institutions and recognized boundaries.

 

why do you call them "Jews"?

they were Zionists, not Jews.

there is a difference.

 

In the mind of the disturbed - its all controled from above......

 

I would like to explore the possibilities of decolonizing "Palestine" - Sam ?

 

There was no insult. Only an opportunity to step back and see the truth. Now take your colored pencil and fill in where it is save to be Jewish, Christian, or gay and you have a completely different picture than the OP is trying to portray by posting a car ad.

The ad is designed to sell cars. Nothing more.
The thread is designed to cast Israel and Jews in a bad light. Nothing more.

 

Oh? And just what 'STATE' would that have been?

 

The non-state entity of Mandatory Palestine, of which Jews and Arabs were full citizens.

 

Hmmm... so first it's a 'state', then it's a 'non-state'. Interesting.
However, be that as it may (for now), if both the Arabs and the Jews were full citizens of this 'non-state', what (or who) gave the Jews the right to displace the resident Arabs?