Intelligence Panel Releases Trump Report

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL... where did Zelensky say that?? The Time interview??? Read his statement again... Not what he said...
     
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    They shouldn’t have to! They have subpoena power and oversight authority.
     
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    So, you agree that the questioners don't get their answers from pleaders or no shows? Good to know.
     
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    They have not given any testimony, have they?

    But I'm curious, have they said anything about Trump requesting an investigation against Biden?
     
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    The first is your interpretation of their letter. You are assuming that their letter was a threat.

    The second is almost a fact (that person was not a member of the government), but it does not lead to any conclusion without an assumption.

    The third is again, kind of a fact, but not really relevant nor does it result in any conclusions without an assumption.

    It is objectively and logically impossible to create an argument which does not rely upon assumptions.
     
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    No that is another ridiculous conspiracy. You seem to ignore all the witnesses.
     
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    I literally provided you a link to a Ukrainian official who said they knew about the freeze well before he released the aid and while the demand for the investigation was ongoing and a person who swore that Ukrainians did ask about the freeze well before the aid was released and while the demand for the investigation was ongoing.

    Show me the Zelensky quote to which you think I should respond.
     
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  11. Egoboy

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    Aren't these Rudy's records?? He's not under indictment (yet)...

    Here's a joke - What's the best duration of time to have on a phone call with Devin Nunes?

    A = 0.00

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    No, the next step in the process but the dems are in a hurry.
     
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    It's how it works just like you guys claim about impeachment.
     
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    All the witnesses that witnessed nothing and assumed things later?
     
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    Wait, they testified? How the heck did I miss that?
     
  16. Egoboy

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    Next step if the process is obstruction... I applaud them moving on... McGahn was the proof that you cannot rely on the courts to do anything in a timely fashion...

    You'd be in a hurry too, if you recognized the stakes here...
     
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    Obstruction is not a process. Of course you applaud this charade. The shortest impeachment investigation with the thinnest evidence ever. Designed to fail in the Senate.
     
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    Nothing at all. The aid was never mentioned, and they never felt pressured. Which is the whole point. Now, wanna talk about real illegalities? This scum, called the "whistleblower" forced the release of classified information, marking the 5th time classified information has been leaked in the Trump Administration.

    If this is our "new normal", then no one can complain if similar treatment is made of a President Warren.
     
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    The Dems knew they were going to impeach in November 2016. The plan was to find any wrongdoing by Trump (even if it was a late credit card payment), and then proceed.

    I don’t think that’s the way our political system is supposed to work.
     
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    The Democrats are going to get crushed in 2020.
     
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    So what evidence do you have that every single witness lied under oath?
     
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    No desperation!

    This is nothing more than a smoke & mirror show. I would love to see an impeachment
    Trial with Schiff & his buddy the whistleblower on the stand.

    Bring it on..... talk is cheap !
     
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    There were some witnesses that said there was no bribe or QPQ or pressure or demand.

    What about those witnesses? They don't count?

    It's nothing but "he said / she said" scenario.
     
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    So no, you have no evidence the witnesses were lying under oath. Thank you, and I accept your concession.
     
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    That is a strawman argumantt.

    I have never claimed that they lied about their assumptions, presumptions, or opinions.

    My claim is that those assumptions, presumptions, and opinions don't constitute valid evidence.
     
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