Interesting information re: Hutchinson

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  1. Tucsonican

    Tucsonican Well-Known Member

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    So yesterday it seems like CNN Analyst Alyssa Farah Griffin told the panel she was on that she is the one that convinced Hutchinson to get a new attorney and go to Cheney.

    https://twitter.com/JohnBerman/stat...n-in-touch-with-liz-cheney-for-new-testimony/

    Now we have Adam Kinzinger saying that Tony Ornato, one of the secret service agents denying Hutchinson's claim, "likes to lie".

    https://twitter.com/AdamKinzinger/s...nt-who-may-dispute-hutchinson-claim-likes-lie

    As evidence that Ornato "likes to lie" he cites...Alyssa Farah Griffin.

    So here's what we've got; We've got a CNN analyst that is friends with Hutchinson that encouraged here to either change testimony she already gave or supplement testimony she already gave. In facilitating this she collaborated with Cheney. The other Republican member of the committee is saying that the secret service guy is a liar. If Ornato is a liar then what makes Kinzinger, Cheney or, for that matter, Griffin, think that he didn't lie to Hutchinson!

    This is the kind of "evidence" that the J6 committee is pushing on the American people. It's garbage and they KNOW it's garbage! It's also garbage that is being promoted by organizations such as CNN which have become propagandist organizations rather than news organizations. This kind of circular reporting of unverified, sketchy "evidence" is the same way the Russiagate narrative was promoted and it ALL goes one way.

    Americans need to wake up to the ruse that is being foisted on them before it's too late.
     
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    Kabuki theater.

    I am tired of the media perpetuating lies and false accusations
     
  3. Lee Atwater

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    IOW, you have nothing but an ineffectual attempt to disparage Cassidy and her testimony.

    Cassidy Hutchinson, the former aide to ex-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows who’s provided explosive testimony to the House Jan. 6 Committee, privately testified that she received several menacing calls ahead of her interview with the committee, according to multiple outlets.

    Politico, the Washington Post and the Guardian report that the two slides committee vice chair Liz Cheney (R-WY) presented that showed evidence of “witness intimidation” during Hutchinson’s public hearing on Tuesday were quotes from the ex-Meadows aide’s private testimony.

    “[A person] let me know you have your deposition tomorrow. He wants me to let you know that he’s thinking about you. He knows you’re loyal, and you’re going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition,” the unidentified caller said, according to Cheney’s description of the witness intimidation.

    Politico reports that the redacted “person” was Meadows.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/hutchinson-warning-calls-testimony-pressure-witness-intimidation
     
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    Isn’t this how the Russia Russia Russia thing get started?
     
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    Kinzinger is out of a job in January. Hopefully so with other J6 panel members.
     
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    Yes it is. So typical of democrats double standards
     
  7. Tucsonican

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    All I'm talking about is the circular reporting and how the J6 committee is part of that propaganda process.

    Cheney produced police audio that she held out to be evidence of Trump supporters armed with AR15s but those calls were merely of police response to witness concerns and Cheney, since she never had to deal with anyone cross examining her assertions, never said anything about the result of those police investigations. Likewise, this testimony by Hutchinson was also never corroborated by the committee and no questions about the veracity of those statements were ever asked. The committee is not pursuing justice and it is not pursuing understanding of the January 6th events which might lead to legislative actions. It is pursuing vengeance against a political opponent that they hate and, by extension, vengeance against anyone that supported that political opponent.
     
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    The entire world outside North Korea WITNESSED Trump telling the rally attendees a lie about Pence's authority to overturn the election results.

    The entire world outside North Korea WITNESSED that incited mob attack hundreds of Capitol police officers and Trump outright refused to call for back-up.

    Disparage as many witnesses as you want. Neither of the two above facts are disputable.
     
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    Biden staff is quoted speaking about the "New Liberal World Order"......
    Sounds like a planned movement with a total political objective; nothing accidental or natural about it.
     
  10. Tucsonican

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    Trump was suggesting that Pence could QUESTION the election results. If that resulted in overturning then great, if not then, like he did, fight it from the outside. From day one Trump was put in a position where he couldn't trust anyone and SHOULDN'T have trusted most people around hem. I damned sure don't blame the guy for being a little on the conspiracy side.

    As far as the riot goes, maybe Trump could have said something earlier but security at the Capitol was not his call.
     
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    When's her book coming out? I know Howard Dean made out pretty well after Watergate.
     
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    This is false. None of these statements are mere "suggestions". They are all manipulative lies. Trump knew from his own attorneys, Pence and Pence's attorney that he had NO authority to do what Trump was demanding from him.

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    Source: Transcript of Trump's speech at Capitol
    https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

    This is not true either. Trump very much worked various angles on the inside when he disenfranchised marginalized groups playing around with the USPS, threatening to issue an Executive Order forbidding Biden from winning the election, trying to coerce the DOJ to say the election was rigged, bullying Raffensberger "to find X number of votes" and all the doors he could kick open to steal the election.

    When all of the above failed, he asked his supporters to come to the Capitol and he lied to their faces, had Rudy pump them with more BS and unleashed them on Capitol police officers and our lawmakers. He was sending his "calling card" that he can get people to do his bidding and they won't bother to question his veracity or even do their own due diligence to verify the information he was telling them.
    That's not a valid argument.

    He was not just responsible for doing something, it was his duty.
     
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    Amber Heard II is fooling no one.
     
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    I think that was John Dean. Howard Dean was a presidential candidate in 2004 known mostly for the "Dean Scream" which pretty much blew up any chance of winning he might have had.
     
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    Two agents have come forward, anonymously (probably fearing Trump's wrath) that basically confirm Hutchison's statements.

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    So the usual - The Buck stops somewhere else when it comes to Trump - that must be tiring for you to try so many mental gymnastics
    to worship the Poster Boy of the Seven Deadly Sins.
     
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    I already started a threat on Troye and Griffin confirming that Ornato lied, did you miss it?

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...y-denying-hutchinson-testimony-a-liar.601232/
     
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    IF Trump wanted to go to the capitol- why shouldn't he?

    All this is choreographed to imply that he wanted to be there for nefarious reason, and that others had the right to control his choices.
    Seems Trump is accountable for what the left's emotions are, and the left.... isn't accountable for anything. How fricking convenient, especially if you objective is a "New Liberal World Order"... as is being discussed among the Biden staff.

    If you really hate the idea of freedom, Biden's your man. Or your puppet man, doing the bidding of those behind the curtain.... Duping the gullible everyday.
    America didn't get to be a dumpster fire because of Trump- but because of those people, and the gullible fools helping them.
     
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    The truth will eventually come out -- despite the dems and the MSM.
     
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    If Hutchinson had testified that Trump wanted to be taken to the Capitol and was angry that he wasn't that would have been fine. Instead of doing that Ms. Hutchinson testified that Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of the vehicle he was in and tried to assault a secret service agent. That narrative gives a completely different, and completely inaccurate, picture of what was happening. As such, Hutchinson's testimony was pure propaganda, Cheney promoted that propaganda to the public and CNN appears to have orchestrated the propaganda.
     
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    Of course. My guess? He was trying to impress her with the story and, likely, keep his pursuit of her going. I believe that she recounted exactly what she was told.

    However, given the vast damning scope of her first hand testimony, it would appear that that irrelevant detail has become the dramatic focus.
     
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    Let's have a look into the communications between the committee members and Hutchinson... was she coached?
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    Pelosi's not in the picture?
     
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    Nope. Officers can clearly be heard identifying people in the crowd who were armed.
     
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