Interesting interview with John Bolton

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  1. Jolly Penguin

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    That's part of it. Other big parts of it are campaign financing rules and the two party system going on. Only the uber wealthy or chosen few favoured by the party insiders can run. Hillary wouldn't have gotten any reaction whatsoever without Democrat Party insider favouritism. Biden was a VP so may have.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, and for four years He also had people Like Bolton, Milly, Barr, McMaster, Kelly, etc., keeping Trump from doing really crazy ****.

    The point Bolton makes that if Trump is elected for another term, he is more likely to appoint loyalist sycophant yes men and not people like Bolton, Barr, McMaster, Kelly, etc. At that point, there would be nothing holding him back.
     
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    No new wars for four years under Trump, and you would have me believe John 'WMDs!!!' Bolton was the reason why?

    omg...:rolleyes:
     
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  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I commented on Bolton's jingoism, but there is no reason to beleive his foreign policy preferences cloud his assessment of the character of Trump.

    Sorry, your argument doesn't wash.
     
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    Bolton has a Trump axe to grind.
    Bolton has had a trump axe to grind since Trump fired him in 2019 for leaking to the press.
    His latest diatribe is not driven by patriotism or by concern for the country.
    It is book sales. Bolton has a book (surprise!).
    Bolton is on a book tour.
    I would no more put faith in anything Bolton has to say, good or bad about Trump or anyone else, because Bolton is only interested in selling his book.
     
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    The Following knows all that to be true. They don't care. After all, Hunter cheated on his taxes.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Piss on him all you want, his criticism is logical and reasonable. He doesn't talk like someone with an axe to grind.

    I am not convinced you are correct. I think Bolton has nailed it.

    Selling books doesn't' equal telling lies, that's a specious argument.

    Not to mention that most of the sensible associates and staff, the ones that weren't convicted, do not support Trump for 2024.
     
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    Right you are.
    "Bolton also offered some strong criticism of Biden's administration while speaking with CNN on Tuesday. The former national security adviser described the president's actions as "extraordinarily weak" and said that Biden has put America "more in danger" during his time in office."
     
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    Bolton's criticism is "logical and reasonable". OK, if you say so. The reality is, Bolton has an axe to grind with Trump and he's been whacking away since Trump fired him.

    Selling books doesn't automatically make Bolton a liar. It does give him all the motivation in the world to skewer Trump with only the "facts" that support his axe grinding. If you think Bolton is being objective and fair with his attacks on Trump I would like to show you ocean front property in Arizona that's for sale.

    Who is supporting Trump or not supporting him is not relevant to the issue of Bolton's motivation for skewering Trump.
     
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    With criticism of both sore loser Trump and Biden, it sounds like Bolton may have aspirations of being the nominee for the No Labels Party..
     
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    Or, like me, he does not think either should be president.
     
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    He has no axe to grind, they approached him, remember? He doesn't need Trump.

    You're just making that up because you don't like what he is saying.
    You're making that up. There is no evidence whatsoever for your claim. There is more incentive to have integrity, if you are a well known foreign policy guy, than to lie. You're claim makes zero sense.
    Did it ever occur to you that YOU have the 'incentive' to impugn the integrity of Bolton just because he's dissing your guy for prez? Hmmmm? Perhaps YOU are the.....nevermind.
    That attitude can work against you, as well. See above.

    Here's one fact for you,. which you cannot deny:

    You haven't refuted ONE THING HE HAS SAID. Your only argument is 'he has an incentive to lie', which is a lie, because in truth, he has more of an incentive to be true to his convictions, given that he is a prominent figure in conservative politics.
     
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    I don't make stuff up.
    I offer my opinion.
    You're welcome to your opinion of course and to buy Boltons book.
    And I still secretly hope Haley gets back in the race.
     

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