Into the Vagina: Republicans Force Women to go full term!

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  1. banchie

    banchie New Member

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    Yes, the loony right is at it again!! Republicans just can't keep their hands other women's vaginas.

    GOP rep.: Force women to have babies because abortion ‘robs men’ of fatherhood rights.

    Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-MO) told conservative activists on Wednesday that women should be forced to carry their babies to term because abortion “robs men” of their right to be fathers.

    Speaking at the 41st annual March for Life in Washington, D.C., Hartzler opined that “abortion hurts everyone.”

    “It ends a beating heart, it leaves emotional wounds with women that they carry for life and it robs men of the privilege of fatherhood,” she said. “That’s why we must do everything in our power to end this devastating practice.”

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    “We will continue to do all that we can here on Capitol Hill to ensure Americans born and yet to be born enjoy the most basic right to life.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/...cause-abortion-robs-men-of-fatherhood-rights/
     
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    Let them spew their extreme ideology it only further alienates them from the majority of Americans.
     
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    Poll results on this issue:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

    How's that republican rebranding going? lulz
     
  4. banchie

    banchie New Member

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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The sad thing is that this fight was fought a LONG time ago. Unfortunately, some simply don't remember the reason why and pine for the good ol' days when a desperate women had to resort to brutal methods, toxic homemade concoctions, and clothes hanger abortions to end an unwanted pregnancy.

    Outlawing abortions doesn't end abortions, it just makes it more dangerous for the affected woman. Period.

    It also sickens me that these same people are so rabidly against effective comprehensive sex education which has been proven time and time again to lower abortion rates.
     
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    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    Some men really want to be fathers and if we are going for equality, a man should be able to sue for damages or something when a woman gets an abortion.
     
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    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    And that's why it's bad to have high safety standards for abortions, right guyz?
     
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    I think you missed the point that the amount of people who want it outlawed under any circumstance outnumber the people who want it legal under any circumstance, as does the overall number of people who consider themselves pro-life in contrast to pro-choice


    sums it up in one sentence, not to mention the boundary issue of the state taking such authority to prevent a woman from doing a particular thing with her own body.. there is no proper role for the government to have such an involvement in our citizens' personal lives.. determining if a women had a miscarriage or an abortion, and carrying out punishments for the women who take part in said action

    some people have the idea in their head that if you make it illegal the issue will go away, but it's far more complicated than that... and I really feel more people would take the pro-choice position if they considered the unintended negative consequences vs the intended positive consequences of the two notions' in practice. In almost every example the pro-choice outcome is more humane than the pro-life outcome.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    It is extreme to want to kill kill kill.

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    Pretty good, did you read your own chart? Try again.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    78% are against full on do what you want to do abortions the democrats call for. Only 22% agree with you.

    Now those people who want it restricted already know life is valuable. We just need to educate them on when it starts.
     
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    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    If you like your fetus, you can keep it. Period.
     
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    The majority of Americans also believe rights are granted by the government, the Federal Reserve does not inflate and manipulate the currency, a tax refund is free money, giving up rights via the N.D.A.A., the Patriot Act, and NSA will keep us safe and are solely to keep us safe, and social security is a good investment for retirement and all Muslims hate us because we are free and our youth watch Britney Spears videos. Many of them also can’t name the vice president, one amendment to the Constitution or one policy their candidate supports. As long as they know who the finalists are on American Idol and it’s still cool to kill babies, it must be all they need.
     
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    It isn't the woman's body. The body belongs to another human being. DNA says so. And Marist and Pew both have polls that show slightly different results 48-43 for limiting Abortions to Rape incest and when the Mothers life or health are at risk. Those exemptions which existed in 38 of the fifty states prior to Roe v Wade, By the way pregnancy is real easy to avoid. Keep you skirt down and you panties up and you don't get pregnant.
     
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    I would go farther. If the abortion was early, say the first 8-12 weeks, it should be allowed. Nothing over 25 weeks unless the mother's life was in danger, or if the fetus would be born with a major defect. Forcing a woman to have a child in a case of rape is not right at all.
     
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    The average abortion is performed around the tenth week. By that time the fetus already has fingerprints, active brainwaves, and a detectable heart rate.
     
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    Well if there is ever going to be an agreement on abortion, both sides need to give a little. One side wants none and the other wants it up to 9 months and nothing is ever settled.
     
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    Obama's insane regulations Czar once was quoted as saying 2 year olds ought to be the limit. Infantacide anyone? I've already stated that I am willing to allow Abortions in the case of Rape incest and where the mothers life or health is at risk other than that I am not willing to see human beings terminated simply because their existence is inconvenient for someone else.
     
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    Who has the "extreme ideology" and who is out of step with the majority of Americans again?

    http://www.charismanews.com/us/42505-poll-84-percent-of-americans-support-abortion-restrictions

    More than four decades after the Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade, the vast majority of Americans are still very uncomfortable with the reality of widespread abortion in the United States, according to a new Knights of Columbus/Marist poll....

    .....

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-majority-of-americans-support-20-week-abortion-ban/

    The Supreme Court has ruled that abortion is legal without restriction during the first 24 weeks of pregnancy, but 56 percent of Americans would prefer to impose restrictions after only 20 weeks, according to a new Washington Post/ABC News poll. Only 27 percent of respondents prefer the current 24-week threshold....
     
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    I thought that conservatives were pro-freedom and didn't want the government telling them what to do? How do you explain forcing women to give birth to unwanted children and being against legalizing pot then?
     
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    Yeah, simply lifting up a skirt and pulling down panties is what gets women pregnant. It's not a guy (*)(*)(*)(*)ing them.

    It takes two to tango. And when tangoing, condoms and BC pills go a long way to avoid pregnancy as does education for teens and availability of these things....

    Heh, keep your skirt down. By that logic, we should be getting on men's asses for not keeping it in their pants and not wearing a raincoat. Because it's clearly their fault...ALL their fault...oh wait...
     
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    The Right has become so Taliban-like, it's insane!! :(
     
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    That may possibly be because to ACTUALLY possess a right in a real way, you need some PROTECTION for the same.

    Example: It is illegal to discriminate with regards to ethnicity. Well, without some government power BACKING people on that matter... for many that would just be 'words' written down somewhere.

    You can claim whatever right you wish... but if there is nothing to support that reality, it effectively/practically won't exist.
     
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    Those "high safety standards" are merely attempts to make it difficult to impossible to get an abortion.

    The higher the cost and the higher difficulty and the higher number of "alternate" methods will be tried by desperate women.

    Reproductive rights are usually the first thing that fascist societies, particularly religious ones, clamp down control on. The anti-choice movement is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to control women, to put them in their place, and to reduce them to second class citizens who effectively don't even own their own bodies.
     
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    Time for Regional Federal facilities to tend to women's health issues. Place such facilities in States which welcome them and subsidize travel that a woman may need to get there/back.

    That's not the optimal solutions, but I think it could work.
     
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    That's because she realizes that abortion does exactly that. But this goes deeper. If fathers have no rights whatsoever to decide to abort or not, and consent to sex is not equal to consent to pregnancy, then bye bye child support laws. As they make no legal, moral, or practical sense if the choice of the child is all up to the woman. How can you hold the man responsible for someone else's choice?
     
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