Introducing the National Soda Tax

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  1. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    So you think soda is a necessity?

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    So we shouldn't make any attempt to reduce the deficit because someone is just going to spend it anyway?

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    No one is taking away your ability to drink what you want. A tax isn't taking away that ability.
     
  2. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    They are actively punishing me for doing so. To get what I want, I have to pay more for it than I should simply because the government says so. I don't see a reason why they should be able to do that.
     
  3. TheTaoOfBill

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    Pop has an unhealthy effect on many impoverished families. Anything that shifts pop from an every meal staple to a special treat for dessert would help the poor. Making pop too expensive to drink regularly would help the poor.
     
  4. Nightmare515

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    Neither is about 99% of the other stuff we consume. You want to tax all of that as well?
     
  5. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    And why should a few at the top tell the rest of us what we should be doing? Like I said to him, you elitism is showing. If you think pop is bad, don't drink it, but leave the rest of us alone.
     
  6. TheTaoOfBill

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    You're whining about pennies an oz. That's not a punishment.

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    Because unhealthy behavior costs everyone money. If you want to do it that's fine. But you should pay us for it.
     
  7. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    I don't care if it's small, it's still trying to punish me monetarily because the government doesn't like what I'm doing. I shouldn't be taxed for their opinions of my diet.
     
  8. Brewskier

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    No, it's not a necessity. Doesn't mean we need to tax and ban the **** out of it. People drink soda because they like it. A lot of people are employed because of soda. I'm sure there are plenty of things in your life that aren't necessities that you still enjoy.

    Saying you want to reduce the deficit when you don't really want to... you just want to spend more money on social welfare programs, is disingenuous.
     
  9. TheTaoOfBill

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    Yeah. I would love to see a junk food tax. Everything that's not a raw ingredient should be taxed. Encourage people to cook for themselves.

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    I didn't peg you for a marxist, Brewskier. Welcome to the club I guess.
     
  10. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    Everything anyone does at some point costs someone money.
     
  11. PatrickT

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    That's why the liberals love our most regressive tax: FICA.
     
  12. Brewskier

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    There are millions of people who drink soda who are very healthy.

    How about taxing homosexuals who engage in gay sex? That's caused quite a bit of costly unhealthiness over the years. It's also not a necessity. Where are you on that one, Bill?

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    Your post made absolutely no sense, but thank you for admitting you're a Marxist. Good job.
     
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    How about we have an automobile tax? You don't need a vehicle get off your lazy butt and walk to work. Or ride a bike.
    How about a media and electronics tax? You don't need a TV go outside. You don't need to goto the movies read a book the book is usually better anyway.
    How about an airconditioning tax? Open a window, people lived for thousands of years without A/C.
    How about a furniture tax? Go buy the raw materials from Lowes and make your own dining room table and chairs.
     
  14. Brewskier

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    Except a lot of poor people can't afford to do that. Many minorities, in particular.

    But white progressive elites don't really care about minorities or the poor, even though they claim to.
     
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    If there was a way to tax unprotected non monogamous sex I would. But you can't really tax for not buying protection. People shouldn't have to pay for others unhealthy behavior. That includes unprotected non monogamous gay sex (or straight sex)
     
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    Sounds like a brilliant argument for getting rid of the welfare state. But as a fan of universal healthcare, your only option is to ban behaviors and products that you feel is too costly for the system you want. I can support the bolded area of your statement and not run into a million double standards. You can't.
     
  17. TheTaoOfBill

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    If you're so poor that you can't afford to cook food then you're poor enough that your food is paid for via food stamps.
     
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    So this brings me back to this and I have ask this of Republicans and Democrats. Who the hell put anyone in charge to be the moral police. Don't tax or tell me what I put into my body and I won't tell you what to do.
     
  19. Nightmare515

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    To play a bit of the devils advocate here.

    Nobody will tell you what you can and can't do to your own body but if your personal lifestyle results in you needing medical treatment should hospitals treat you if you can't afford to pay the bill?
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Maybe a New York soda tax and we ship all the disease-ridden gangstas flooding over the border to Manhattan.
     
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    In what world is helping the poor get soda compassionate? Why don't we make it easier to get heroin while we are at it?
     
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    I thought they had something like that; the sin tax.

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    How is drinking alcohol destructive?
     
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    But you fail to see the bigger picture here. You pass this, it opens up a slippery slope.
     
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    So you want to control someone's behavior then? Because this is what this is.
     
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    Is tea a necessity? Oh wait, I forgot our founding fathers stood against that tax....
     

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