Iran arrests demonstrators in 2nd day of anti-regime protests

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which Americans are you referring to?
     
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    That excuse is nearly 70 years old.. Operation Ajax is long past. This is NOT about democracy or the Mosadeegh or oil revenues. This is about the Ayatollah, the Mullahs and the Revolutionary Guard.
     
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    Then international and local protests seem to be having some effect, which can only be a good thing. People of the world need more freedom and much less Islam..

    https://www.iranhumanrights.org/201...ght-wearing-bad-hijabs-as-summer-heat-begins/
     
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    It’s not an excuse. It is absolutely what led to the government that Iran is under today. Instead of CIA operations interfering in Iran, let the Iranian people do as they wish.
     
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    The MEK was a student organization from the 1960s.. They are in exile now.. Mostly France I think. The advocate the violent overthrow of the current government and originally wanted to overthrow the Shah.
     
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    Those Americans which blame so much of the trouble in the Middle East on Iran and look the other way with regard to Saudi Arabia. A few of whom are contributing posters right here.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's often hard to tell the good guys from the bad as far as leadership goes but I'm hoping democracy will eventually triumph and that the people will win.
     
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    I was in Iran in 1953, 54, 56, 58....

    Operation Ajax has become an excuse for the oppressive governance of the Ayatollah and the Revolutionary Guard. Its Iran's excuse to be a pariah in the international community and an obstacle to peace in the region.
     
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    Again, it’s not an excuse, but it’s a reason. Iran pursues there interests often at their neighbors expense as does Israel, SA, the US etc.
     
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    My view re the 1953 Coup:

    It was a very significant event in terms of defining Iranian political culture at the time of the revolution. Its greatest significance was two-fold: first, it denied the Shah's regime legitimacy as the regime was seen as installed by foreign powers. Second, it fueled and fanned the kind of conspiracy theories which existed within leftist and Marxist oriented groups when it came to US foreign policy, which many saw as falling within the rubric laid out by Lenin in Imperialism, the last stage of capitalism.

    The 1953 coup's lingering importance in helping define the foreign policy posture of the regime that came to power after the revolution in 1979 aside, however, it is no longer the primary driver in the events that divide the US and Iran today. Indeed, today, the real issue between Iran and the US is a lot more about the US and its internal/external politics and policies (including the blue prints and plans which are being pursued by the same folks behind PNAC) than anything else. Much of Iran's regional policies since PNAC in the early 2000 period and thereafter have been a reaction to it. There are, of course, lingering policies and positions that date back to Iran's revolutionary era and slogans which might stir the pot as well, but all those would have been negotiable. Indeed, Iran had signaled a willingness to negotiate all of them in 2003 and it was the US which had rejected the offer, under the hubris that they can bring regime change to Iran.
     
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    Oh no, not shifting any blame. Obama has absolute blame as does those in congress that supported the operation.
     
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    Lol. Protesters in America are arrested all the time. Who gives a **** what the White House says concerning the way that Iran responds to their protesters.
     
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    I hope the proud Pershians continue with the revolution and kick out their evil Ayatulla leaders.
    This is revolution !!
    This is the begining of it.
    Soon we will have a Pershian spring .. Inshallahhhh
     
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    What, you want me to quote your own link? Ok: "Two singers who were performing at the events were among those detained, and some alcoholic drinks and drugs were confiscated."

    Did you even not bother to look at your own link that has a big photo of alcohol in cans being emptied by the police. And the word to describe you is hypocrit if you want the answer to the second part of your question
     
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    I don't even know who he is other than he is someone who has been involved in some scandal in the US
     
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    Saudi Arabia and Israel and the US do NOT want to control territory in Iran.

    Iran sits on the oil corridor. They are in the catbird seat... and should be prosperous and stable.. Instead, they have Mullahs. Ayatollahs and the Revolutionary Guard.
     
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    Congress never had a say in Libya. That was 100% obama
     
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    The same type are running things in Saudi Arabia.
     
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    What they want is to control access to Iranian oil - as made clear in the Wolfowitz Doctrine:

    On the other hand the US has the Neocons, the CIA, Homeland Security and the Deep State all of whom are, in their own unique American way, western equivalents to the Mullahs, Ayatollahs etc.

    No one is blame free in this ongoing debacle.

    And let's be clear: Iranian prosperity is knowingly harmed by the US imposition of sanctions aimed precisely at causing internal strife. Having the media then highlight it innocently is barbarically cynical.
     
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    Well, if you’re referring to a congressional vote, no. The Obama administration argued that they didn’t need congressional authorization for it (which I heartily disagreed with) but amongst the congress there was plenty of democrat support and some republican as I’ve already quoted earlier.
     
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    Yes some in Congress voiced support including McCain but Congress as a body never had a say in Libya. Obama did that entirely on his own.
     
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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...rotests-least-20-dead-450-arrested/995096001/

    Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini blames 'enemies' for meddling in protests

    "At least 20 people have died and 450 have been arrested in the nationwide protests that began Thursday in Mashhad and spread to other cities, according to Iranian media."

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    What a murderous, filthy regime of absolutely the most vile scum.

    May a painful death come to the regime, and all of its supporters and apologists find their proper justice.

    Death to the iranian regime and all of its terrorist components like hezbollah, hamas, etc.
     
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    Congress has been abdicating their constitutional authority in many areas, most notably their war powers, for decades. My point was from the beginning on this is that Obama had plenty of congressional support for the Libyan operation. Trump conducted an assault on Syria recently without congressional approval, though he had substantial congressional support for doing so. Our rather messed up congress seems to be supporting military conflicts about the ME but they don’t want their names officially upon it. Libya was as American as Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc.
     
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    Congress was asking to have a voice in Libya but obama ignored them and because a couple of Republicans like mcain expressed their personal views it does not equate to congressional support.
     
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    From your own source:
    EXCERPT "Acid attacks - an excruciating assault used in many countries to rob women of their looks - are rare in Iran and authorities, including conservative clerics, were quick to condemn them."CONTINUED(1)


    The rest of the instances you cited are simply crimes and examples of police brutality that are found everywhere.
    Meanwhile it looks like the Iranian people are doing something about it.



    (1) "Acid attacks in Iran sharpen row over Islamic dress and vigilantism"
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...c-dress-and-vigilantism-idUSKBN0IP15K20141105
     

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