Iran Confronts 3rd Day of Protests, With Calls for Khamenei to Quit

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  1. Jeannette

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    And then there's the lies and propaganda about Iran and the protests. Here's reality from Moon:

    Altogether only a few thousand people, overwhelmingly male youth, seem to be involved. Thousands in Israel each week against the corruption of Prime Minister Netanyahoo.

    On New-Years-Eve
    some 21 of which (by my count) at least five were policemen killed in attacks by "protesters" and two unrelated civilians who were run over and killed by rioters driving a stolen firetruck. Six rioters were killed when they tried to attack a police station in the town of Qahderijan. The governor there claimed that the attackers were armed with guns.

    The same faking of pictures of large demonstrations and "evidence" of government brutality that we have seen with regard to the war on Syria is taking place with Iran. Videos of demonstrations
    from Argentine and Bahrain are used to claim large demonstrations in Iran. A tweet with the Bahrain video by a "journalist" who claimed it was in Iran has received more than 17,000 re-tweets.

    Videos
    from Spain or even movie scenes are purported to show police violence in Iran. A video of a man lying on his back and being cared for is once claimed to show that he has been shot by police while at the same time another propagandists claims that the man had a cardiac arrest after police used a taser on him. There are no signs of wounds or other trauma. The dude probably just passed out.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/
     
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    Oil companies and banks and foreign branches of insurance companies, foreign correspondents of media - amongst others - are often riddled with intelligence officers working on secondment. I've been there, seen that and knew some...
     
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    Have you seen the below Brookings paper circa 2009? go straight to Part III, Toppling Tehran - Regime Change and especially Chapter 6, The Velvet Revolution: Supporting A Popular Uprising.

    The usual US Modus Operandi is to have one of these papers set out the options and then at an appropriate time to instigate dissent, then call it "popular" and agitate in their controlled media and, as necessary, arrange for paid players to agitate in-country towards that end.

    This Brooking paper is pure classic American double-speak. Note that the chapter "supporting a popular uprising" is the very first in the section titled Toppling Tehran - Regime Change.

    https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf
     
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    I suppose this means Iran is not allowing the international media to observe the protests
     
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    Yes.. exactly.....
     
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    We are as one on the need and virtue of a multi-polar world. The last few decades of complete US dominance has proved an unmitigated disaster. The US elite hasn't the wisdom or grace to be in complete control.

    As weird as it seemed, the cold war did provide a degree of multi-polar stability - despite the dangers of world war that was always inherent.
     
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    What it meant, if you had bothered to read it, was that the US has had plans to agitate for, and encourage a velvet revolution in Iran as part of a regime change operation dating back to 2009.

    The US hegemonic strategy is:

    Feel free to watch it via the Qatari TV station Al Jaz.
     
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    Update - more than 500 wounded .. 20 dead .. hundreds are arrested..
    Inshallahhh Allah will bring revolution to the proud Pershians against their evil Ayatullas leaders
     
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    You should give the itanian people a little credit

    We cant make them do anything they dont want to do

    And there does appear to be a news blackout of whats taking place
     
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    There is always a minority - or a faction - that will do anything for money and promises of power. And then there are any number of ex-pats, families of those who fled with the Shah, plus Israeli born Persians and others who are cultivated to perform 5th column activities etc etc. There's nothing new in this.

    Were they American's agitating for a regime change in the US they would be regarded as traitors. But Iranians doing that in Iran are hailed as heroes by Americans. Why? Explain this double standard?

    As I keep saying this is nothing new, but the all the holy hypocrisy stinks to high heavens.
     
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    Of course the Saudis sell oil.. Are you demented? What do you think they should do with it?
     
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    When my team scores I cheer

    When its the other team I dont

    And this is more important than a sporting event
     
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    The US has created its own Frankenstein monster with the Military Industrial Complex that our former president Eisenhower warned Americans about during his fairwell address in 1960. He was a soldier, a general during the Second World War and had first hand knowledge. The US was set on a permanent war economy and it’s like an addicted junkie. If the US were to scale back to a truly defensive posture, our unemployment would shoot up tremendously. In fact everything associated with scaling back to a defensive posture would spell economic disaster for the US. So I don’t see it ending that way. The concern amongst myself and some of my professor friends is that it won’t end until the US is defeated in a conflict with now emerging superpowers. And btw, it’s not just America’s leadership all these years to blame for this. As you can see just here on this forum, my fellow Americans are largely blind to this, or too patronizing to acknowledge it.
     
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    It beats me why someone would boast about being stuck in the neolithic tribal era and unable to see far beyond the entrance of the cave in which they dwell - as well as likening mass murder and untold human suffering as a sports event.

    But then I'm no longer a child.
     
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    An American partisan?

    Yep thats me

    But I get the mass murder quote
     
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    And then there are always many Iranians who demand their fundamental human, civil and political rights in the face of an illegitimate regime that deprives them of their rights.

    It's interesting and telling how you make absolutely no mention of those people...

    It's literally amazing that this requires explaining to anyone. Are you seriously trying to equate the U.S. government to the Iranian government?

    It's only natural that the freedom-loving people in America would support and sympathize with the freedom-loving people of Iran who are struggling to obtain the human, civil and political rights that is denied them by the illegitimate, rights-repressive regime that runs their country. Are you so lost in your own moral relativism or lack of appreciation for the freedom that we enjoy that you can't even begin to grasp why some Americans hail the aspirations and courage of the Iranians who have been struggling against a regime that Ruhollah Khomeini's hand-picked successor, Grand Ayatollah Montazeri, described as "condemned and illegitimate"?

    The question isn't why so many Americans are hailing the freedom-loving people of Iran - the question is why you and so many others are NOT hailing them?

    By the way, that's a rhetorical question. No explanation is necessary...
     
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    As I see it, there are two kinds of people out there who are against the people of iran and support the regime:

    1) the obama lovers who don't want to admit he, the mainstream/leftist media like the NYT, various EU leaders and his lackeys/liars like ben rhodes, susan rice, hillary, kerry, etc were all lying about the "moderate" nature of parts of iran's regime, so as to support obama's lunatic outreach and the useless nuclear deal.

    They bet their whole existence on obama's word and this deal, and the last thing they want is to see him proven wrong - that the regime is a cancer. They are also fearful that Trump's strong stance in support of the people, unlike obama's weak support in 2009, is having a positive effect, because they despise Trump and would never want to give him credit for anything.

    2) the america/Israel haters who rely upon iran's cancerous regime as a fountainhead/bulwark of hatred and violence against Israel/US/West, and are in a state of panic should that regime be overthrown. These are the same people who openly rooted for assad, who formed another spoke in their beloved "axis of resistance," i.e., terrorism and war/violence, calling everyone who fought his regime "terrorists."

    This second group is in a state of panic should the iranian regime fall, because if iran's people were to overthrow this diseased, fake regime a lot of the anti-Israel terrorism and bile emanating from iran would end, and Israel would no longer be under constant threat. A big voice for violence agains the US/West would be switched to the side of the good guys, and that scares this group of far left, radical trash fiercely.
     
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    Why are these protests getting more attention than the protests against Netanyahu in Israel?
     
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    I guess it's because we're seen Washington's destruction whenever it supports small minorities to serve its own self interest. Ukraine and Syria comes to mind. But then again, we aren't known as the 'Empire of Chaos' for no reason.
     
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    Like the Assad minority?
     
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    The “empire of chaos” is comprised of the United States, Japan, and Germany, and backed by a weakened USSR.
     
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    There's no guessing about it. The people who put the fascist regime in Tehran before the freedom-loving people of Iran are moral and intellectual pygmies.
     
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    Or Ukrainian and Georgian minorities...
     
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    And......because Iran is a country of 80 million people in which there’s a few hundred thousand protesting, some of which were killed breaking into a police station attempting to get guns. What I don’t understand is why so many Americans always support these types of protests in Iran (Ukraine) while they also support the police in America when they are suppressed here???
     

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