Iran mocks WWII Holocaust, prepares another

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  1. alexa

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    I do not accept that the EPA experiment proves that Diesel does not kill. Giving children as much exposure as they would get in 2 days in California in two hours can hardly be called be equivalent to a lethal does and note the amount was measured. Experiments have in any case already been done years and years ago on this with animals in the 1950's not people which illustrate that diesel fumes kill and that it is not just due to CO

    http://stason.org/TULARC/history/ho...esel-engine-are-not-toxic-enough-to-kill.html

    By trying to equate the EPA study with Treblinka you guys are showing here a total lack of knowledge of how scientific experiments are done.

    I do agree however that people can become confused on the internet about the holocaust not just due to being antisemetic when they start reading such things. This is due primarily to people having nothing but the most basic understanding to begin with. However if people get started on such an adventure I believe they then have a responsibility to look at all the evidence and only when they have researched all that, should they choose to do so, will they be in a position to argue their case - and that is needed.

    At the same time it is well known that holocaust denial is a symptom of white nationalists whose biggest hatred is Jews - nothing to do with Israel. I also note that at the moment Israel is claiming that the word Zionist is replacing the word Jew. This is causing big political problems in my own country at the moment where there is an attempt to make antisemitism the same as antizionism and in this antizionism is basically criticism of Israel. However at the same time I notice in this thread people using the word Zionism seemingly instead of the word Jews so that makes me think that there is some truth in what they say. I have even heard the word Zionist Bolsheviks used when as far as I am aware the two could hardly be further apart so I see a blurring of things going on. Indeed to some extent it seems to me that what is going on is indeed what Jews such as Blumenthal and many others have been suggesting would happen which is that by conflating criticism of Israel with antisemitism, Israel is opening the door for genuine antisemities to get in and in some way what both are saying would appear to be true. Jew haters would appear to be using the word Zionism instead of Jews but in no way does that equate with criticism of Israel or even genuine antizionism being the same as antisemitism.

    I am in no doubt that people could start investigating the holocaust deniers online and get confused. However when people say they have only just started looking at this and then claim that they have read what would take several years to read and study in one week then I know they are being dishonest and what reason would a genuine person have to be dishonest in this way if they were indeed just curious. None.

    I also did a research on your name and it appears it comes from a band who people believe are neo nazi.

    Looking at your holocaust denier and obviously this is just a first look. I notice he is supported by Gilad Atzmon and opposed by Tony Greenstein. Gilad Atzmon is considered to at the very least be a person who encourages antisemitism by almost every Jew there is and particularly by those who are most criticial of Israel. He does not even believe there is such a thing as antisemitism. I also notice
    http://www.righteousjews.org/article27a.html

    so on first look I can see he is supported by a Jew who is considered by just about every Jew in the whole world to at the very least encourage antisemitism and he is not supported by Jews who are very criticial of Israel and have always been critical of Zionism such as Greenstein. At first look he appears dubious and would not be taken as a reliable source by me without a great deal further investigation - and given I have no need for him as a source I am not going to do that.

    This thread has also brought into holocaust denial, holocaust exploitation, particularly such by Israel. The issues are separate. Conflating the two could be an accident caused by emotion but they are separate.
     
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    "I also did a research on your name and it appears it comes from a band who people believe are neo nazi."

    I needed a good laugh. Thanks for providing it !

    Your other comments are equally "loose". Why don't you leave the echo chamber you live in and actually read some
    books. You would learn a great deal from Gilad Atzmon's "The Wandering Who". Go back through this thread and
    pick out some of the revisionist authors mentioned, buy some books, and READ them.

    You are no longer bound. You can choose to leave ignorance, but you have to do some work.

    .
     
  3. alexa

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    laugh all you like but what I said is true. I did a research on your name and it comes from a band who many people believe are neo nazi. They may deny it but it does not change the reality that what I said is true.
    He is considered at the most kindly explanation to be a man who at the very least encourages antisemitism. I have noticed on this forum he is generally supported by people who eventually turn out to be antisemites though on one occasion this was not so and the person was just deceived although it did encourage him to lean in that direction. He actually believes there is no such thing as antisemitism. How can you possibly say such things do not encourage it which they do.
    I am quite willing to believe that with you there is no ignorance in what you do and will accept that it is just antisemitism.
     
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    Apologized yet? No? Bye.

    That means you don't pay attention at all. You ignore every information contrary to your belief.

    Right at the beginning of the article I posted:
    Sadly, there are no Godzilla-sized phosphorescent letters available on the forum, so you'll have to settle for the more modest equivalent. I hope you're not color blind.

    Both gasoline and diesel are hydrocarbons. If the authors of the study wanted to talk about gasoline related cases only, they'd have written gasoline, not hydrocarbons. This is a scientific study, not a Guardian article. If they wrote "hydrocarbons", it's because they wrote about hydrocarbons, which include diesel. If they didn't want diesel to be included, they'd have explicitly told us that diesel is not to be included.

    Furthermore, the case of CO poisoning due to diesel exhaust is mentioned in the article as just another case of CO poisoning. There's no mention whatsoever of it being in any way different from the other cases studied. Which means that the authors of the study consider that there's no difference between CO poisoning due to gasoline exhaust and CO poisoning due to diesel exhaust. Which further means that any of the 128 cases mentioned could be due to diesel exhaust as well as gasoline exhaust.

    This is how the above case is presented:
    Clicking on (14) brings us to the following footnote:
    14. Griffin M, Ward M, Terrell A, Stewart D. Diesel fumes do kill: a case of fatal carbon monoxide poisoning directly attributed to diesel fuel exhaust with a 10-year retrospective case and literature review. Journal of Forensic Sci. 2008;53(5):1206-11.

    Of course, not clicking on (14) would have led to an incomplete understanding of the study, which is exactly what happened to you. Don't blame your own lack of reading comprehension skills on me, please.

    I admit that the sentence "would 128 cases of death from CO poisoning be satisfying?", implying that all those death cases were due to diesel exhaust, was a gross exaggeration, but in no way showed that I didn't understand what the discussion was about.
     
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    If you did researches, you certainly landed on their Wiki page. And if you saw their Wiki page, surely you must have read about what you thought. Reality is, a band can't sing in german with an aggressive sound without being accused of being nazis. It's crystalization.

    I think it is rather because you were taking a sound beating, as witnessed by the numerous talking points you didn't return. Wise girl, in any case. Knowing about your limitations is excellent - so I guess your hasbara superiors shouldn't be so pissed as to not sending you your cheque.
     
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    You should have read the thread. Sadly, my post clearly debunking the junk science presented in that article was removed by a mod because I posted a pic of what a body looks like with the cherry-red discoloration associated with CO poisoning....

    Yesterday, 08:45 AM
    SamSkwamch

    This message has been deleted by Lee S.

    Reason
    Rule 9 - Needless graphic imjages


    ANd if you read the article you posted, WHICH DOES NOT EVEN MENTION DIESEL, YOU WILL FIND THE SAME EXACT THING!

    Bottom line: You people have had pages to show that diesel exhaust is deadly, yet there is nothing!
     
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    AND "RULE 9" EVEN STATES:

    We'll allow as much latitude as we reasonably can for images or quotes that are directly related to a legitimate event...

    That image was highly relevant as it showed what none of the Treblinka witnesses claimed or even Arad himself. This was all pointed out in the deleted post, but the mod chose to delete the post in its entirety, as opposed to just removing the image, the relevance of which, he did not understand.
     
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    I've seen your post. It made no sense to me.

    Too bad there are no spoiler tags available. Very useful for graphic images.

    Us people have showed that hydrocarbons exhaust is deadly. Diesel is a hydrocarbon.
     
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    That "4" in your wiki article denotes the following articles citation:

    https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005224

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergen-Belsen_concentration_camp#References

    Please c/p where it says in that article that 35 thousand people died of typhus. FYI the number 35 thousand is not even in the article cited at all. And once again the Nazi is proven as a fraud.
     
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    No
    no again
    I certainly read about them at Youtube. People there were questioning whether they were or not and one guy said he had been to see them and he could now say for certain they were.

    It wasn't the name that got my initial interest. I wondered what the plane was and then I just decided to do the name as well. So you are telling me that Wiki would say the same as posters were at Youtube. There are other links that say the same. I did not say they were neo nazi but there generally is a reason why people suggest something. What do you think it is with this group?
     
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    Of course it made no sense to you. You don't even understand the story you are supporting.

    Let me be as clear as possible.

    Treblinka story 1: 3.9 million Jews were electrocuted to death. Mainstream historians admitted this was crap.

    Treblinka story 2: 2 million Jews were electrocuted to death. Mainstream historians admitted this was crap.

    Treblinka story 3: 750,000 Jews were gassed to death by diesel exhaust. 200 Jews at a time were led down a path known as "the tube" where they filled 10 separate rooms the size of small bedrooms that were (for reasons i cannot fathom) built into "the gas chamber." The diesel engine was turned on and in about 30 minutes they would be dead.

    With all you know now, does that make any sense at all? Does it sound even remotely reasonable?


    I never claimed that diesel exhaust can't kill. I have only showed that there has never been evidence to show that it has killed.
     
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    Comments on Youtube are notoriously young and/or stupid. Wikipedia, at least, gives sources.

    I can't help but feel sympathy for the Germans here... the simple act of flying a German flag (not a third reich one) can earn you a nazi reputation, and that is in Germany itself.
     
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    Scary videos, Rammstein! I shudder. Is there a continuation?
    Of course, the Matrix is a metaphor for the world as it is... true? I have heard our life is just a dream; the real world is on the other side. The door to that other side is death.
     
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    I have already attempted to correct your ignorance in this area but I suppose the following blunt force will not penetrate either.

    https://research.archives.gov/id/596664

    http://www.axishistory.com/axis-nations/59-holocaust-a-war-crimes/holocaust-unsorted/387-aktion-t4-the-euthanasia-program

    http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/einsatz/rauff.html

    https://www.facinghistory.org/holocaust-human-behavior/dr-august-becker-memo-use-mobile-gas-vans
     
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    Where does that correct your ignorance? It seems to support your ignorance just like the article you posted. Just show simply where someone died from diesel exhaust.
     
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    I, too, don't accept the insulting aspersion that to question what has become an extortionist Cult / de facto State Religion (aka "Holocaustianity") has anything to do with anti Jewish sentiments since many nationalities, political, Ethnic & Religious (and atheistic) Groups suffered dismally before during & especially after WW 2.

    While these many Nationalities, Racial, Ethnic & Religious (and atheistic) groups suffered, horribly from barbaric War Crimes committed by all sides before, during and especially after WW 2, to suggest that the suffering of any one group is, somehow, more profound simply because of their particular Ethnicity / Religion is among the highest forms of hypocritical racism.

    For example, where are the memorials to the countless innocent, civilian, post-War "gang-rape Survivors" who ranged from ages 6 to 60+ & have born that lengthy, painful & humiliating scar which remains as indelible but not so proudly touted as the now sacred "number tattoo"?

    Anyone who has experienced adversity and traveled extensively has learned that "We all bleed red". So, it remains a tragic reality that millions bled profusely stemming from decades of carnage that was ignited in Sarajevo over 100 years ago.
    I must agree with the many historians who consider both World Wars 1 & 2 as one long war as the injustices of the Treaty of Versailles, its subsequent massacres, persecutions, displacements & obscene extortions guaranteed additional hostilities.


    In reference to the oft touted but selectively applied phrase: "Always Remember", it seems like the most sincere & ethical way to honestly memorialize the many who suffered before, during & after WW 2's countless, universal enormities would be to make every effort to prevent any form of their recurrence.

    What does the most to diminish from the credible sincerity of Holocaustians* who would scold the world, extract $ Billions ($ Trillions?) & blindly worship at the altar of Orthodox Holocaustianity is their immediate support for the infliction the genocidal Nakba on Palestine's long pre-existing Native Residents, their criminalizing honest scrutiny, free speech & the creation of a transparent, crass & self-serving extortionist "Holocaust Industry" fraught with obscene corruption [1].

    _ _ _ _ _


    While I have not read all of the many comments submitted on this thread relating to "...diesel exhaust as a murder machine...", I've only noted the absence of any references in the tomes of Holocaustian lore to such a shocking feature of deaths by diesel exhaust. That is that the skin on the corpse turns a bright red color[2]
    It only seems like there would more universal testimony mentioning this grisly & unique feature in the observations of survivors if millions were killed in this manner.











    * "Holocaustians": I only use this term as an abbreviation for the group of people who believe the Orthodox version / Conventional narrative of "6 Million Jews gassed etc" as opposed to the billions who do not [3] & not as an aspersing pejorative


    [1] “Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million”
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT “The scope of a conspiracy to defraud the world’s largest Holocaust reparations organization, uncovered in 2009, was much greater than previously believed, a former senior official has alleged.
" CONTINUED




    [2] “Carbon monoxide poisoning”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning
    EXCERPT “Hemoglobin acquires a bright red color when converted into carboxyhemoglobin, so poisoned cadavers and even commercial meats treated with carbon monoxide acquire an unnatural reddish hue.
    One classic sign of carbon monoxide poisoning is more often seen in the dead rather than the living – people have been described as looking red-cheeked and healthy (see below). However, since this "cherry-red" appearance is common only in the deceased, and is unusual in living people, it is not considered a useful diagnostic sign in clinical medicine. “CONTINUED





    [3] “Did the Holocaust Exist?”
    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at...ary-number-of-people-say-no-or-not-even-aware
    EXCERPT “Half of the people in the world have never heard of the Holocaust, ADL found.
    And in the other half – the ones who have at least heard of the Holocaust and the truth that Adolf Hitler ordered the deaths of 6 million Jews – a third of this group simply did not believe the Holocaust happened. To this group, the Holocaust is a lie, a myth, a hoax, a conspiracy by those with a political or ideological agenda.”CONTINUED
     
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    I, too, don't accept the insulting aspersion that to question what has become an extortionist Cult / de facto State Religion (aka "Holocaustianity") has anything to do with anti Jewish sentiments since many nationalities, political, Ethnic & Religious (and atheistic) Groups suffered dismally before during & especially after WW 2.

    While these many Nationalities, Racial, Ethnic & Religious (and atheistic) groups suffered, horribly from barbaric War Crimes committed by all sides before, during and especially after WW 2, to suggest that the suffering of any one group is, somehow, more profound simply because of their particular Ethnicity / Religion is among the highest forms of hypocritical racism.

    For example, where are the memorials to the countless innocent, civilian, post-War "gang-rape Survivors" who ranged from ages 6 to 60+ & have born that lengthy, painful & humiliating scar which remains as indelible but not so proudly touted as the now sacred "number tattoo"?

    Anyone who has experienced adversity and traveled extensively has learned that "We all bleed red". So, it remains a tragic reality that millions bled profusely stemming from decades of carnage that was ignited in Sarajevo over 100 years ago.
    I must agree with the many historians who consider both World Wars 1 & 2 as one long war as the injustices of the Treaty of Versailles, its subsequent massacres, persecutions, displacements & obscene extortions guaranteed additional hostilities.


    In reference to the oft touted but selectively applied phrase: "Always Remember", it seems like the most sincere & ethical way to honestly memorialize the many who suffered before, during & after WW 2's countless, universal enormities would be to make every effort to prevent any form of their recurrence.

    What does the most to diminish from the credible sincerity of Holocaustians* who would scold the world, extract $ Billions ($ Trillions?) & blindly worship at the altar of Orthodox Holocaustianity is their immediate support for the infliction the genocidal Nakba on Palestine's long pre-existing Native Residents, their criminalizing honest scrutiny, free speech & the creation of a transparent, crass & self-serving extortionist "Holocaust Industry" fraught with obscene corruption [1].

    _ _ _ _ _


    While I have not read all of the many comments submitted on this thread relating to "...diesel exhaust as a murder machine...", I've only noted the absence of any references in the tomes of Holocaustian lore to such a shocking feature of deaths by diesel exhaust. That is that the skin on the corpse turns a bright red color[2]
    It only seems like there would more universal testimony mentioning this grisly & unique feature in the observations of survivors if millions were killed in this manner.











    * "Holocaustians": I only use this term as an abbreviation for the group of people who believe the Orthodox version / Conventional narrative of "6 Million Jews gassed etc" as opposed to the billions who do not [3] & not as an aspersing pejorative


    [1] “Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million”
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT “The scope of a conspiracy to defraud the world’s largest Holocaust reparations organization, uncovered in 2009, was much greater than previously believed, a former senior official has alleged.
" CONTINUED




    [2] “Carbon monoxide poisoning”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning
    EXCERPT “Hemoglobin acquires a bright red color when converted into carboxyhemoglobin, so poisoned cadavers and even commercial meats treated with carbon monoxide acquire an unnatural reddish hue.
    One classic sign of carbon monoxide poisoning is more often seen in the dead rather than the living – people have been described as looking red-cheeked and healthy (see below). However, since this "cherry-red" appearance is common only in the deceased, and is unusual in living people, it is not considered a useful diagnostic sign in clinical medicine. “CONTINUED





    [3] “Did the Holocaust Exist?”
    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at...ary-number-of-people-say-no-or-not-even-aware
    EXCERPT “Half of the people in the world have never heard of the Holocaust, ADL found.
    And in the other half – the ones who have at least heard of the Holocaust and the truth that Adolf Hitler ordered the deaths of 6 million Jews – a third of this group simply did not believe the Holocaust happened. To this group, the Holocaust is a lie, a myth, a hoax, a conspiracy by those with a political or ideological agenda.”CONTINUED
     
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    Grau is correct yet again.

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    DUPLICATE POSTS WERE UNINTENTIONAL

    Sorry
     
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    READING COMPREHENSION ISSUES?





    The following is the c/p from the Wiki source I cited.


    FYI: the terms "Nazi", like "anti Semite" have become so overused & crassly exploited by today's Nazi-esque Holocaustians or "Holo-Nazis" as to be more meaningless epithets so popular among this planet's more lowly, insulting & ethically challenged societal residue


    The following is the source I cited. Any deviations between the Zionist dominated Wikipedia and a fraudulent, Holocaust Industry Theme Park are certainly to be expected between such ethically flawed & corrupt entities.

    “Bergen-Belsen concentration camp”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergen-Belsen_concentration_camp

    EXCERPT "From 1941 to 1945, almost 20,000 Soviet prisoners of war and a further 50,000 inmates died there,[3] with up to 35,000 of them dying of typhus in the first few months of 1945, shortly before and after the liberation.[4]"CONTINUED
     
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    well I don't know if that is true. I rarely read them. Once of twice I have looked at what people say about videos to check if they are authentic but that generally is it. However they do attract WN there is no question of that. I went back to try and find the page I had seen before, (can't find my history on 'edge') I couldn't find that but what I did find was a load of Nazi videos. I'll put the page as a link

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-OsuNNTgU4

    this was confirmed when I looked at the wiki page as you suggested they spoke of them as neo nazis.

    OK I have only skimmed the top of the wiki page but they definitely believe they are supported by neo nazis and are inferring they strongly might be

    https://raumfahrer.wordpress.com/rammstein/

    I might look more later. It is suggesting ways white Nationalists use music to get their message across. Oh and they said

    ;)

    So I found a documentary on them which I watched till almost the end - link again

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK8EQqH1IM8

    and they don't come over as neo nazi.

    Of course Rammstein the poster could have been referring to the American Air Base there which would make his laughter more understandable!
     
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    Ouch! I never thought about this one. It is most likely.
     
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    Aww the holocaust denier doesn't know what a reference page or a citation is, when you click that number four in "liberation[4]" it leads to this link you brilliant (*)(*)(*)(*)ing genius you:

    https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005224


    This is the entire (*)(*)(*)(*)ing article which is used for your citation:


    German military authorities established the Bergen-Belsen camp in 1940, in a location south of the small towns of Bergen and Belsen, about 11 miles north of Celle, Germany. Until 1943, Bergen-Belsen was exclusively a prisoner-of-war (POW) camp. In April 1943 the SS Economic-Administration Main Office (SS Wirtschafts-Verwaltungshauptamt; WVHA) which administered the concentration camp system, took over a portion of Bergen-Belsen and converted it first into a civilian residence camp and, later, into a concentration camp. Thus, while the German government placed the Bergen-Belsen camp complex within the concentration camp system, the WVHA initially gave it a special designation.

    The Bergen-Belsen camp complex was composed of numerous camps, established at various times during its existence. There were three main components of the camp complex: the POW camp, the "residence camp" (Aufenthaltslager), and the "prisoners' camp" (Häftlingslager).

    The prisoner-of-war camp functioned as such from 1940 until January of 1945. The "residence camp" was in operation from April 1943 until April 1945, and was composed of four subcamps: the "special camp" (Sonderlager), the "neutrals camp" (Neutralenlager), the "star camp" (Sternlager), and the "Hungarian camp" (Ungarnlager). The "prisoners' camp," also in operation from April 1943 until April 1945, consisted of the initial "prisoner's camp," the "recuperation camp" (Erholungslager), the "tent camp" (Zeltlager), the "small women's camp" (Kleines Frauenlager), and the "large women's camp" (Grosses Frauenlager).

    Over the course of its existence, the Bergen-Belsen camp complex held Jews, POWs, political prisoners, Roma (Gypsies), "asocials," criminals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and homosexuals.

    As Allied and Soviet forces advanced into Germany in late 1944 and early 1945, Bergen-Belsen became a collection camp for thousands of Jewish prisoners evacuated from camps closer to the front. The arrival of thousands of new prisoners, many of them survivors of forced evacuations on foot, overwhelmed the meager resources of the camp. With an increasing number of transports of female prisoners, the SS dissolved the northern portion of the camp complex, which was still in use as a POW camp, and established the so-called "large women's camp" (Grosses Frauenlager) in its place in January 1945. This camp housed women evacuated from Flossenbürg, Gross-Rosen, Ravensbrück, Neuengamme, Mauthausen, and Buchenwald concentration camps, as well as various subcamps and labor camps.

    At the end of July 1944 there were around 7,300 prisoners interned in the Bergen-Belsen camp complex. At the beginning of December 1944, this number had increased to around 15,000, and in February 1945 the number of prisoners was 22,000. As prisoners evacuated from the east continued to arrive, the camp population soared to over 60,000 by April 15, 1945. From late 1944, food rations throughout Bergen-Belsen continued to shrink. By early 1945, prisoners would sometimes go without food for days; fresh water was also in short supply.

    Sanitation was incredibly inadequate, with few latrines and water faucets for the tens of thousands of prisoners interned in Bergen-Belsen at this time. Overcrowding, poor sanitary conditions, and the lack of adequate food, water, and shelter led to an outbreak of diseases such as typhus, tuberculosis, typhoid fever, and dysentery, causing an ever increasing number of deaths. In the first few months of 1945, tens of thousands of prisoners died.

    On April 15, 1945, British forces liberated Bergen-Belsen. The British found around sixty thousand prisoners in the camp, most of them seriously ill. Thousands of corpses lay unburied on the camp grounds. Between May 1943 and April 15, 1945, between 36,400 and 37,600 prisoners died in Bergen-Belsen. More than 13,000 former prisoners, too ill to recover, died after liberation. After evacuating Bergen-Belsen, British forces burned down the whole camp to prevent the spread of typhus.

    During its existence, approximately 50,000 persons died in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp complex including Anne Frank and her sister Margot, both of whom died in the camp in March 1945. Most of the victims were Jews. After liberation, British occupation authorities established a displaced persons camp that housed more than 12,000 survivors. It was located in a German military school barracks near the original concentration camp site, and functioned until 1951.

    SS PERSONNEL
    SS-Hauptsturmführer Adolf Haas became the first commandant of the Bergen-Belsen camp in the spring of 1943; SS-Hauptsturmführer Josef Kramer replaced him in December 1944. The number of SS functionaries in Bergen-Belsen varied over the course of the camp's existence. The SS succeeded in destroying many of the camp's files, including those on personnel.

    POSTWAR TRIALS
    In autumn of 1945 a British Military Tribunal in Lüneburg tried 48 members of the Bergen-Belsen staff, including 37 SS personnel and eleven prisoner functionaries. The tribunal sentenced eleven of the defendants to death, including camp commandant Josef Kramer. Nineteen other defendants were convicted and sentenced to prison terms; the tribunal acquitted fourteen. On December 12, 1945, British military authorities executed Kramer and his co-defendants.

    Further Reading

    Bardgett, Suzanne, and David Cesarani, editors. Belsen 1945: New Historical Perspectives. Portland, OR: Vallentine Mitchell, 2006.

    Herzberg, Abel Jacob. Between Two Streams: A Diary from Bergen-Belsen. London: I.B. Tauris Publishers in association with European Jewish Publication Society, 1997.

    Reilly, Joanne, David Cesarani, Tony Kushner, and Colin Richmond, editors. Belsen in History and Memory. London: F. Cass, 1997.


    Now where in that article does it say that 35 thousand people died of typhus?

    The closest we come to your claim in that article is the following:

    Overcrowding, poor sanitary conditions, and the lack of adequate food, water, and shelter led to an outbreak of diseases such as typhus, tuberculosis, typhoid fever, and dysentery, causing an ever increasing number of deaths. In the first few months of 1945, tens of thousands of prisoners died.

    The wikipedia article has now been fixed to accurately reflect the reference material.

    Nowhere in the works citation does it state state that 35 thousand people died of typhus alone, you are once again proven as the fraud that you are, the wikipedia article has now been fixed to accurately reflect what the reference material actually says get educated.
     
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    The following is from the Israeli Declaration of Independence:

    "Ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex: It will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education, and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations".[3]

    "the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions."


    This is from the Nazi race laws:


    Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service, April 7, 1933


    The Reich Government has enacted the following Law, promulgated herewith:

    § 1

    1) To restore a national professional civil service and to simplify administration, civil servants may be dismissed from office in accordance with the following regulations, even where there would be no grounds for such action under the prevailing Law.

    2) For the purposes of this Law the following are to be considered civil servants: direct and indirect officials of the Reich, direct and indirect officials of the Laender, officials of Local Councils, and of Federations of Local Councils, officials of Public Corporations as well as of Institutions and Enterprises of equivalent status...The provisions will apply also to officials of Social Insurance organizations having the status of civil servants....

    § 2

    1) Civil servants who have entered the service since November 9, 1918, without possessing the required or customary educational background or other qualifications are to be dismissed from the service. Their previous salaries will continue to be paid for a period of three months following their dismissal.

    2) They will have no claim to temporary pensions, full pensions or survivors’ benefits, nor to retain designation of rank or titles, or to wear uniforms or emblems....

    § 3

    1) Civil servants who are not of Aryan descent are to be retired (§ 8 ff.); if they are honorary officials, they are to be dismissed from their official status.

    2) Section 1 does not apply to civil servants in office from August 1, 1914, who fought at the Front for the German Reich or its Allies in the World War, or whose fathers or sons fell in the World War. Other exceptions may be permitted by the Reich Minister of the Interior in coordination with the Minister concerned or with the highest authorities with respect to civil servants working abroad.

    § 4

    1) Civil servants whose previous political activities afford no assurance that they will at all times give their fullest support to the national State, can be dismissed from the service....


    The founding document of Israel is fundamentally antithetical to the ideology of Nazism.
     

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