Iran pledges more access for nuclear inspectors, head of UN watchdog says

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  1. notme

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    https://www.politico.eu/article/ira...ear-iaea-inspectors-head-of-un-watchdog-says/


    Ah yeah. The US broke the agreement between the EU, Russia, China and Iran on the nuclear business. And so Iran was no longer obliged to cooperate. It resulted that Iran has gotten very close of getting uranium enriched to 90%. Good job, Trump.

    Iran is not voluntary coming back to the previous agreement, butting the ball in Biden's court. It's obvious what Iran is going to do if the US isn't going to pick it up. Undoubtingly they are going all the way to get that 90%.

    And crazy talk about idea's to go attack Iran, will undoubtingly end up that Iran decides that they have no other option than to go nuclear themselves for the sake to protect their country from violent nations who wish to extend their colonial power at the expense of their sovereignty.

    No doubt that Biden is going to find the way out for Iran to not go nuclear, that could set of that other nations around them (Saudi Arabia) find the need to go nuclear as wel. But the concessions for it, are probably going to be big.
     
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    If the inspectors can only go to certain sites, like before...then the deal is garbage.

    Attacking Iran is the only option. And to be honest? It would stop them from arming and supplying Russia.
     
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    The US lied to the world about the WMD capabilities in Iraq. And crazy talk like promoting the idea that the only option for Iran is attacking Iran leads to the only logical conclusion that Iran must have nuclear missiles to bomb those who want this to happen. All countries are allowed to defend themselves, not just Israel or the US. And this kind of crazy talk gives Iran that right to defend itself.
     
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    Are you under the impression that Iran isn't gunning for nukes? lol
     
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    The US managed to build a nuke 60 years ago or something, with the computing power of a potato. Israel has like what, accused Iran of being days away from having a nuke for like 30 years now? Even North Korea did that, and that was more than 15 years ago.

    So there can be only one logical conclusion: if Iran wanted to have a nuclear bomb, it would have had one by now for sure.
    Is your opinion truly only fixed on Zionistic warmongering Muslim hating propaganda? lol
     
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    Under that asinine logic, every country in the world would have nukes.

    Iran wants nukes. We have been doing our best to stifle their development. Iran's leadership is an oppressive, authoritarian **** hole regime who war mongers. We've all seen the videos of their most recent and barbaric treatment of woman and how they handle protests against their bullshit ideology. Would be absolutely ok if Isreal goes in and resets Iranian leadership to something more to what the people actually want.
     
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    Almost every country.... could. And I don't see you disputing the logic.

    Yet North Korea got nukes over 15 years ago. Iran is FAR more advanced. They are among the very very few nations who put a satellite into orbit.

    You put up that Iran are war mongers, but that regime hasn't actually attacked any country ever in it's history. The US has and has done so with WMD's against the civilian population or backed up countries who did that.

    This too is American way of war mongering. The thing is, that Israel can't reach Iran without refueling over Iraq. And Iraq got Iranian installed anti-aircraft missiles. Do note. Israel is a tiny country. You only need to get rid of 3 or 4 cities to only end up with having large towns with less than 250k citizens. Israel is well within reach of Iran. When Hamas is able to penetrate that Iron dome with flimsy home made junk, it would mean it's a walk in the park for Iran to just end Israel. And than Israel can finally get a normal government that respects the rights of Muslims for a change.
     
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    No, it's not "easy" to develop nukes. I'm sure Iran could get there but they are not there, they want to be there and we need to not allow them get there.

    Iran's version of Islam is regressive, abusive and sinister. It's very clear that the people do not want to be ruled in such a way and are being oppressed. It remains to be seen how a war between Israel and Iran would go but my money would be on Isreal. Especially if backed by the United States, which it would be.

    The benefits of such an assault would mean that Russia no longer gets arms to help fuel it's asinine assault/genocide on Ukraine. Iran may get new more democratic leadership, or more simply - leadership the people want. And stability in the middle east.

    It will be interesting to see how Russia or China deals with Iran considering they want Saudi Arabi to get on board with Brics but Iran and Saudi Arabia don't exactly like each other either.
     
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    I never stated it's easy. But it's rather doable. North Korea managed it over 15 years ago, while being sanctioned rather firmly for decades in an ill attempt to prevent them from going nuclear. Pakistan also managed to have make them all the way back in 1972. Iran is FAR more advanced. Opinions vary, but about 11 to 15 countries are able to shoot a satellite into space. Iran is one of them, and North Korea and Pakistan are not.

    This would lead to the only logical conclusion that if Iran wanted to have nukes, that they would have gotten them decades ago.

    Not relevant. I also note that the US warmongers previously uprooted the Iranian elected government to install a fascist ruthless regime who executed the political active population by the 10,000's. Hence the only thing that was able to end the madness was the religious sect. With that, the US created what they absolutely did not want. The US warmongers also tried a regime change in Afghanistan for 20 years and they only got corpses to show for it. The warmongers lied about Iraq to have a regime change there too, and they got a massively corrupt regime in return and a rise in terrorism that went through the roof so hard that it spilled over all the way into the EU. The rise of ISIS, which spawned in Iraq, happened when it was occupied by the US warmongering regime.

    Israel would lose in any scenario. It's tiny and it can't defend itself from the incoming missiles of Iran. It's virtually over when they destroyed Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Haifa since there are no other real cities to be concerned about. At best for the Israeli scenario would be that Iran is destroyed as well.

    I also previously noted that these western warmongering talk only supports the idea for Iran that it must have nuclear bombs for the sake to defend itself against these warmongers.

    Yes interesting. You're accusing Iran of warmongering. But warmongering is all that you're doing for the sake of geo-political gain.
    Do note, all previous regime changing experiments in the ME, backfired.
     
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    I'm fairly certain Israel would be favored in a war with Iran. Their iron dome is second to none because they've had to deal with Hamas constantly shelling them for decades.

    NK likely were able to get their nukes with outside help from other shithole authoritarian regimes who would benefit in NK having stability. I say that as speculation but feel confident considering NK is the most backwards and regressive/oppressive regime on the planet which is saying something.

    Russia will enable Iran to get nukes. It's now in their favor to insure such a thing. And there needs to be a reaction to such a destabilization. The current leadership of Iran would actually be dumb enough to use them because they are that ****ing extremist. So if airstrikes on Iran from Israel insures a reset of their nuclear capabilities by seizing their Uranium...so be it.
     
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    Israel and it's Iron Dome have no experience with missiles that travel like 7 times the speed of sound.
    Since the crap Hamas shoots doesn't even get to fly close to that speed, and even when flying that retarded slow, it still penetrates it.

    As noted, NK -as backwards as it is- was able to build their own nuke. Iran is FAR more advanced and is missile wise among the top 10 of the world be being able to bring a satellite into orbit.
    Nothing shows that Iran can not match what NK managed to do.... OVER 15 YEARS AGO!!!


    Israel can not reach Iran without refueling over Iraq. Israeli planes will be sitting ducks, while Iran got anti-aircraft missiles already inside Iraq.
    And an attempt like that gives Iraq the full right to defend themselves by blowing Israel up and tossing them into the stone age.

    Nothing shows Iran would be dumb enough to use nuclear bombs.
    Only warmongers use this excuse to go attack. You are accusing others what you actually are.
     
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    (notice how I'm not a chud and do a million copy paste crap on every sentence?)

    I'm suggesting to you that NK got HELP from China. Since it's in China's interest in NK staying NK...I have no proof of this and you will never get proof of this. But that is a much more likely scenario than NK figuring that **** out on their own.

    Israel is likely going to go after Iran...
    https://www.republicworld.com/world...-to-israel-written-in-hebrew-articleshow.html
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    And since I feel that Iran's leadership is a repressive, regressive third rate **** burger...let them have it. It would also have a positive side effect for Ukraine and Russia's supplies of drones.
     
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    I agree with your point that if Iran wanted nukes they would already have them. I'm not sure they don't or if not, they have the necessary components and know how to quickly build them. Nothing the US has done has had any effect on their progress, they simply don't need one at this point.
     
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    It came from Pakistan. Your second guessing is a joke to reality.
    https://globalnews.ca/news/3448765/north-korea-nuclear-weapons/


    And when Israel does, it ones and again means Israeli's are the warmongers and not Iran. You started out accusing Iran to be warmongering, but in fact warmongering is the only thing you're currently doing.

    And that's besides Iran will flatten Israel. It also may do that, since they got the right to defend themselves against any kind of hostile nation. While Israel currently got zero experience with what Iran can toss at them, while Israel is so small that it's easy to just destroy it all.
     
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    I read somewhere that economic pressuring your foes isn't working. And come to think of it....
    North Korea, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba... all them countries who know all about how being economically blocked and pressured to do something for decades on end, have not given any results at all. All it does, is impoverishing the population and causing famines.
     
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    Ok. So based off of this article, it's clear they didn't go it alone and required outside help. My assumption was correct. I was incorrect at which country assisted them.

    Oh well?

    Iran is warmongering by assisting and selling arms to a country actively invading/conquering and attempting to genocide another sovereign country. So ya. Warmongering.
     
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    They just bought it from a guy called Khan. And if they can buy it, so can Iran. That's besides Iran is rather an advanced nation.

    Warmongering is the act of encouraging a war, like you have been doing.
    Iran is just making money out of it.
     
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    Oh I'm fairly certain that I could do a quick google search and post a history of aggression from Iran in the middle east...

    I don't think you want to die on the hill of denial that Iran is a warmonger...
     
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    I wonder about that, Israel going to war against Iran. I imagine it would hinge on what kind of support they could get from Saudi Arabia and others, since Israel is a small country that probably can't handle a full-scale war on its own.
     
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    I'll spare you the trouble.
    https://www.aei.org/articles/iran-has-never-started-a-war/

    The way you're so far off with only shows how deep you sank into the warmongers lies from right wing USofA / Israel.
     
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    The iron drone is not a exactly full prove against home made crude missiles flying nowhere near the speed of sound.
    Iran shoots missiles 7 times the speed of sound. Israel has no experience with that.

    And the accuracy of those missiles shocked the US, when Iran flattened American bases and deliberately without killing US soldiers or anybody else. A feet Israel hasn't managed to do while the shoot missiles all the time.
     
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    https://www.ajc.org/news/iran-is-acting-more-aggressive-and-brutally-than-before

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...r-uranium-for-nuke-program-report/ar-AA18nxHb

    https://www.ajc.org/news/iran-is-acting-more-aggressive-and-brutally-than-before

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Saudi_Arabia_proxy_conflict

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Israel_proxy_conflict

    Why start wars directly when you can help fund others to do the work for you?

    "Iran has provided funding, weapons, and training to groups including Lebanese Hezbollah,[73] and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), which have vowed and carried out attacks on Israel, and which have been designated terrorist organisations by many countries. Because of the hostility, Israel is concerned by Iran's nuclear weapons program and missile program, and is seeking to downgrade Iran's allies and proxies, as well as preventing Iranian entrenchment in Syria, another sworn enemy of Israel."
     
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    In the end, they never started a war in the ME. You can't say the same about Israel, Iraq, Saudi Arabia or the US.


    Sure sure. Israel is concerned about Iran's nuclear program, while Israel is not even a signatory of the nonproliferation treaty and so no nuclear inspections take place there.
    Israel also refuses to comply with the Geneva Conventions by endlessly invading Palestine to made and/or enlarge their war criminal policies
    Israel also indiscriminatory massacres Arabs around. It's even founded on ethnic cleansing like 90% of the Arab civilians for the sake to thieve their properties.

    All things combined makes Israel the most condemned nation on the planet. And here you are complaining what Iran does to Israel. lol
     
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    Iran always lies and breaks it's obligations so who cares what they claim they will do? We know they will break it when ever it is convenient for them.
     
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    In the end I don't care. They warmonger by proxy, it's a **** oppressive and brutal regime which is fueling Russia's war machine atm and if Israel wants to remove that government, the world would be better off. The last thing we need is ****ing Iran to get nuclear weapons.
     
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