Iranian Deputy Said US Might Have Shot Down It's Own Drone

Yeah I've been listening to them for nearly 50 years as well but Iran has a very long history of aggressive actions just like they are doing now.

There was nothing wrong with the invasions of Iraq or Afghanistan. Suggesting that there was is a political lie of the left.

However Kosovo was just Clinton hiding his unzipped trousers. Near as I can tell the lying mostly occurs when Democrats are in office and most of the "lies" are simply not telling us the whole truth for a variety of reasons.

Back to Iran.
Lets see, what country murders gay people just for being gay?
What country acknowledges that women have rights?
Which side takes hostages
Which side illegally siezes vessels in international waters

Yeah feel free to pick a side.. there is a right and wrong side here no matter how much you hate America.

 

Oh, we overthrow their government in 1953 and it's Iran that is guilty? Holy Christ Robert, you have drunk the Kool Aid in very large quantities.

 

In 66 years they have not been able to set up another one?

 

And the Iranians can say:

What side has gays flaunting themselves in parades?
What country has women almost naked on beaches?
Which side jails people with made up charges for being Russian?
Which side illegally takes vessels under false premises?
Which side accuses other nations but never gives proof?

And we could go on and on and on.

 

Oh yes the Iranians have. They set up a government that Washington can't overthrow, and believe me that's an achievement. How many countries can say the same?

 

Yes indeed and they are what ISIS aspires to be.

 

We did not overthrow the Iranian government. The CIA's helped to organize a coup and it failed. Once the CIA failed Iranian military didn't fail.

 

Besides defeating worldwide communists is a noble goal and tryingbti keep nstions from being soviet client states was a good thing. On regards to policy America has nothing to be ashamed of anything we did to defeat communism.

No country has the right to force communism on it's people.

 

Modern wars are not very profitable for defense contractors.

 

Do you not know the answer to your own silly question?

 

Sure Robert, and Bill Clinton did not have sex with that woman.

 

No the CIA actually admitted to having msde a mistake, that they had screwed up and failed.
Sinple fact the CIA coup failed, the military coup that followed right after did not.

Unlike Billy, I'm not distorting history.

Let me guess you think Siagon was an American puppet regime too?

 

At least I can spell Saigon, but maybe that's because I spent so much time there.

Puppet governments is how the US government has operated since Vietnam. We had them all over Central and South America and elsewhere.

 

South Vietnam was not a puppet. They never did what we asked them to. If you study it at all you find that.
1. The people who were there honestly wanted to help the Vietnamese people.
2. The South Vietnamese regimes were obstinate and refused American help apart from our money.

 

Give it your best shot.

 

Wars cost a huge amount of money. That money goes somewhere.....

It is the threat of the bogey man that makes it very profitable for defense contractors. Wars use up the old stuff to make way for new stuff

 

Huge amounts of money does not mean "very profitable". The big profits in defense work is in procurement. The purchase of new weapons systems.

Modern wars actually cause procurement spending to be drastically reduced as spending goes into operations (that is spending on fuel, food, spare parts). Operations spending is low profit margin spending. Plus most of the defense contractor supply chain is already locked in for fuel, food, and spare parts Most contractors don't have to radically ramp up their operations just to supply more fuel to the military

 

Oh, I agree which is why I wrote "Wars use up the old stuff to make way for new stuff".

Without a war, the military won't have the population's support to replace stock that has not been used making it harder to justify more procurement. A bogey man is essential during peace times to justify military spending and actual wars are needed to test new systems, use up existing stock and keep the fear going

 

Except the types of wars that U.S. has fought the last 30 years use of very little of existing equipment.

 

The Americans have started doubling down on their unverified claims, now saying they might have even brought down 2 Iranian drones - a claim denied by Iran in its entirety. The fact that the Trump administration is so adamant about this, with Trump personally referring to this issue several times even totally out of context while Iran is equally adamant that the claim is false, makes this all the more intriguing.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-warship-iran-second-drone-strait-of-hormuz
US warship may have downed second Iranian drone in Strait of Hormuz, officials say

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/20...t/ap-ml-persian-gulf-tensions-the-latest.html

https://www.wral.com/the-latest-iran-says-us-did-not-intercept-drones/18528933/
The Latest: Iran says US did not intercept drones

 

The commander of Iran's revolutionary guards has been even more blunt about the claims by the US, calling it a big lie:

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More generally, with regard to Trump and Pompeo alleging that Iran was "lying" about breaking up a CIA spy ring, the Chinese reaction was perhaps telling when it comes to who is on record boasting about lying:
https://www.newsweek.com/china-responds-iran-us-spies-1450789
CHINA RESPONDS TO IRAN CAPTURING 'U.S. SPIES': REMEMBER WHEN MIKE POMPEO SAID CIA LIES, CHEATS AND STEALS?