Iraq Still A Big Mess

You forgot that liberals on the occupy wall street had plenty to say about it but were attacked by the government, by police, and by the controlled right wing media.

If anything you should ask why the right wing **********s remain silent on this issue.

 

Something else from Iraq

Blast kills mosque worshippers in Iraq

 

Many Tea Party members back the continuing of the Afghanistan war whereas most of the Left opposes the continuation of the war but keep their mouths shut because Obama is the President.

 

More from Iraq. Instead of driving al-Qaeda from Iraq, the US brought them in! Dang!! Constant killing. What a mess!!!!

Suspected al-Qaeda gunmen kill 3 Sahwa members east of Fallujah

What happened to all that "insurgency in it's last throes stuff?"

 

Will Iraq now descend into civil war? Will the autonomous Kurdistan region declare independence and the Sunnis and Shiites slug it out for the rest?

Could Iraq's 'Arab Spring' lead it back to civil war?

 

And the brutality against them was all cheered on + excused by the usual trained chimps, among the masses.

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What left?

 

Pretty much all on this forum for example. All quiet little mice on Afghanistan.

 

Silly answer.

Why not define what you mean by 'the left' (in the US)?

 

Meanwhile, Iraq remains a big mess. According to this report, 76 were killed on Friday, bringing the three day death toll to 130.

Deadliest day in months as bombs strike Sunni areas in Iraq, killing 76

 

Ah, the new dawn of democracy emerges. A price worth paying?

 

If Saddam Hussein was alive and stood as a candidate he would win any election by a landslide. He would still be hated by the majority of the population but they would know that they would be safe to walk the streets.

 

It's amazing, but in an earlier post, I quoted one Iraqi man as saying that people wished for the days of Saddam. A sad testament to what the US has left there. Dang!!! People wish for Saddam! Amazing!

 

As I've said previously, Precision, nearly half of Iraq's population of approximately 28 million people have been adversely affected as a result sanctions, invasion and subsequent occupation - 4 million displaced, 7 million injured/psychologically damaged, 2 million dead, mass unemployment. The country's infrastructure has been practically destroyed. A once relatively prosperous nation has been turned into wreck and terrorist haven. Under such circumstances, the Iraqi man's response was entirely understandable. Democracy for the Iraqi people is an illusion and always was.

 

Bunch more deaths in Iraq today, hurrah for that liberty and stability..

How many more years that will go on, is anyone's guess.

If America comes offering liberty, ask for no liberty.

 

Yeah, for a while Saddam had really raised Iraqi living standards. Iraq was one place in the Middle East were women had some rights.

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LOL! Better to say, we don't want anything, whatever it is!

 

Actually America didn't 'offer liberty' Iraq was in violation of ceasefire terms and regime change was the ticket brought in to force their compliance. As one cannot simply leave a nation without ensuring there is a government in place the Iraqis were given the opportunity to decide what government they wished.

If the people of Iraq wished to not have regime change they simply could have ousted Saddam themselves (anunlikely possibility), brought their nation into compliance with UNSC Ceasfire Terms, and then held elections and allow Saddam to run then vote him in. As it was, the nation was in violation, not just Saddam.

 

(Sniff) The good ol' days.

 

Here's an interesting photo



Of course, things have come a long way since then in Fallujah



Ah, progress.

 

Better on Youtube

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Yes those dirty Chinese, French, Russian and fellow Arab countries who supplied 99% of his arms are mostly to blame for this. Without them he would have not acquired the military he did and there never been a Kuwaiti invasion.

 

Blah, blah, blah, no matter what eh, you just do not have the humility and grace to accept, just once, what the rest of the reasonable world has long accepted....it was LIES. ALL LIES.

 

Iraq was in violation of ceasefire conditions Jack. I know to some who don't believe an agreement means anything that it is just paper but in time of war it is what stops the hostilities and must be adhered to.

Now, if you believe that this is a lie then obviously you have not brought yourself up to speed on UNSC resolutions 660 1441 and are therefore unable and unqualified to have a valid opinion on this and, if you have and ignore it then your bias equally is shown to be so restrictive to open thought that once again, you are unable to speak on realistic terms on this issue.

Waiting to see what you're going to come up with next.

 

Where are the WMD, mate?

 

You don't know? Golly, only been what, a decade and you don't know?

Anyhow, getting back to the broken ceasefire agreements which were the trigger for the invasion, Iraq did not return foreign nationals, account for it's WMDS, material, destruction of same, did not comply unconditionally and immediately with inspectors and in fact, threatened them and their families, did not make ecological and war reparations, attacked Coalition forces, did not make any human rights improvements on his nation for his people and in general did not cooperate whasoever with the UN reguarding the deasefire conditions,. Breaking any of them or not adhering to any of them is cause for resumption of hostilities.


Which is what occurred. When Blix reported on 7 March 2003 that Iraq was not cooperating immediately and unconditionally that was the trigger for the invasion as it clearly indicated that Iraq, despite being told via resolution 687 that the cooperation had to be immediate and unconditional and, reinforced in 1441 that this was their final opportunity, did not. IOWs Jack, it had to do with the protocol of the ceasefire and Iaq's inadherence to same, not that there was a smoking WMD out there that had to be found.

It was Iraq's responsibility to prove they had rid themselves of WMDs and material along with the other conditions, not for anybody to find them. And not helping the UN with that portion is what got Iraq into hot water.

 

Did they find the WMD?

 

Irrelevant.