Iraq: The Bush Legacy

And hopefully what he will do is stop wasting American lives and money trying to salvage Bush's legacy.

 

Bill Clinton made it the official policy of the United States to remove Saddam and his government and replace it with an elected one. It was an act of war. His plan failed, Bush's succeeded.

 

If he had adhered to the intel that caused Clinton to share Bush, Sr.'s savvy decision not to initiate a trillion dollar nation-building fiasco in Iraq, we would have avoided the disaster, but, as we know, his neocons heaped on the phony pretexts.

 

Organophosphates ? You mean pesticides?

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Prove it........

 

So they were going to load the shells with fertilizer and kill our troops with fast growing shrubs?

 

WMD are easy to produce, all you need are the precursor materials which we found hidden from inspectors in Iraq. So what was your guaranty Saddam would never produce more WMD and better ones with the research he was engaged in and if he no longer desired to possess them why did he have those materials and why was he engaged in such research?

It was simply a necessary task after his removal. Had Clinton succeeded in his plan to remove Saddam he would have been faced with the same challenge.

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Ahhh Hillary was quite clear her decision was her own not based of what the Bush administration was saying, get your facts straight. The fact is the decision that Saddam could not be allowed to remain in office was made in 1998, so who exactly was lying about it?

 

Gosh, surprise, Clinton was not President anymore. The one complaint Bill had about Obama was that he never reached out to him for anything other than campaigning.

 

Read the PNAC letters to Clinton and note the dates.

 

I made no distinction about who lied. The fact remains that the gullible, unquestioning American public was sold a pack of lies, and you all bought them.

 

The same phony reasoning that Clinton used. Check.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/

 

The better are the several of the current presumed Democrat Presidential nominee. Surely you will not support her anymore than you would support Bush if he could run again.

 

It was Obama's demand to which he capitulated. Time was running out and Maliki was holding out for Obama who had been elected and was calling for a complete withdrawal over Bush's call for troops to remain. Had Bush not signed the agreement on that December eve then our troops would have had to have withdrawn in mass then.

 

Twice the Congress voted that Saddam and his government could not be allowed to remain in power. Clinton's plan failed, other than Bush's plan what was your plan?

 

This is a lame excuse. If the timeline was not a good idea, Obama did not have the leadership skills or intelligence to foresee what is now happening??? So he just sits there and blames Bush?? This happened on Obama's watch. It is his responsibility, nobody else's.

Even JFK took responsibility for the Bay of Pigs, which was Ike's idea. Obama cannot lead, therein lies the issue.

 

Again. WMD are easy to produce, all you need are the precursor materials which we found hidden from inspectors in Iraq. So what was your guaranty Saddam would never produce more WMD and better ones with the research he was engaged in and if he no longer desired to possess them why did he have those materials and why was he engaged in such research?

So Hillary lied? Blix lied? The Clinton administration lied? Blair lied?

What was the better plan to remove him from power?

 

For God's sake.. Everyone with knowledge of the ME foresaw this happening before Bush ever attacked Iraq. There was NO "victory" in Iraq at any point in time.

 

Were it not for Obama we'd still have a force there and Iran would not have any power in the equation. It was Obama who as President elect called for a firm timetable for a complete pull out and Maliki waited out Bush for Obama to take power and force Bush to sign such an agreement as the December date on the previous agreement was running out and our troops would have had to be immediately pulled out.

 

But he forced the surrender.

 

one has to wonder if the liberal hoard will ever wake up from their current coma.

 

Of course you mean Iraq. And what was your better plan to deal with Saddam and force his ouster?

 

US troops could stay in Iraq for 20 years with the same outcome.. Read the history of the British in Iraq.

 

My plan was to leave Saddam in place, just like we left Franco in place, and just like Spain, over the years Iraq would have moderated and become a democracy, now we have knocked them back to where they will need to become a Theocracy and spend decades there, before they get back to where they were.......

And my plan would have saved a couple of trillion, lowered oil prices, and thousands of US service members would still be alive, tens of thousands would not have the wounds they received, and hundreds of thousands would have avoided the PTSD...
Oh, and oil prices would be lower....meaning Putin wouldn't be as strong as he is now...

 

The finding and killing of Osama Bin Laden is Bush's legacy.

 

I think Bush really thought the iraqis were capable of living peacefully with each other in a western style democracy like ours.

I did too.

But we were wrong.

The only way for the arabs to get along is when they are ruled over by the iron fist of a dictator like saddam.

 

Yes I meant Iraq.. Good catch on your part.

Iraq is actually worse off since the death of Saddam.. and Iran is more powerful.. Iran now threatens all our allies and the GCC.

Democracy is not imposed successfully.. It is organic.

What is that Yiddish saying? Man plans, God laughs.