Is America a democracy? I dont think so.

And now you realize that when you replied "good point" to Raffs claim that

neither one of you had a clue as to what you were going on about.

 

I have a clue as to what I'm going on about--Washington and Tel Aviv are the capitols of terrorism and military aggression, and the leaders get away with murder, literally.

But I must say I'm impressed to discover that the UN has censured Israel so many times. On a related matter, the UN has also found that Assange was being held wrongly. Great Britain is no longer so great, and has ignored the law.

 

Apparently you are not familiar with Russia and believe anything the MSM parrots. I have been there several times and I have a different perspective now than before I stepped off the plane in Moscow the first time. Russia now is very very similar to the U.S. except than Russia hasn't been infected with the PC Movement, the LGBTDHJDGGDHXYZ crowd, and although feminism is trying to make a showing, it's a minority.

Basically Russia is like the U.S. in 1983. It's pretty damn good actually in a lot of ways, although they need their term limits amended. And listen to this good: there are less socialists there than here. Capitalism is in full swing there. They wouldn't be voting Democrat here and that's likely why much much less tourist visas are granted to them as opposed to Mexicans...who overstay at will.

And Russian women aren't tubs of lard either, like here.

 

Nope.

Now let me know when you decide to post the actual, facts, instead of what you concocted here.

 

Dude. Stop it.

That censured mess, means nothing, when it comes to Israel-USA war or invasion plans...the U.N. will never, ever try to stop them in a meaningful way.

 

Don't fall for the okie-doke.

 

Obviously, the delusional Putin apologists and anti-semitic trolls believe Americans are as gullible and delusional as they are. Perhaps they're right, but not this guy, baby.

 

Hmmm. You're confusing money, the tool, with the action of its bad actors--fools, charlatans, and thieves--and ignoring the only good actor, it's creators, the productive.

Ayn Rand, herself, a Russian immigrant, wrote: "“So you think that money is the root of all evil? [...] Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?”

Well, is it?

 

I don't think I was confusing the issue at all. Hitherto you had made zero effort to present any differentiation concerning the accumulation of wealth - you simply lionized the idea and I, therefore, pointed out that capitalism has its very dark side too.

But I agree that the concept of money cannot possibly be the root of all evil. That too is a nonsense. Man is the root of all evil. And the fact remains that a great many of those express their will to power and shadow and compensate for their inferiority complexes through the accumulation of money.

Btw, the days when money was only a means of exchange for goods produced or services rendered is decades out of date. Money - or even a credit rating - can make money out of thin air.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-02/making-money-isnt-supposed-be-easy

 

The US is one of the most democratic and libertarian nations on earth and every survey by every organisation ever confirms this. Anyone who says otherwise is simply delusional

 

Snappy comeback!

 

If I say airplanes are good, you'll say they crash and bomb. If I say writing is good; you'll say it manipulates the ignorant. If I say warm sunny summer days are wonderful, you'll say it leads to sunburn, heatstroke, and drownings. What's the point? The ideal is what we strive for; there are those who goal in life is to defecate on the ideal. To quote Mr. T; "I pity the fools".

Ayn Rand: "“Money will not purchase happiness for the man who has no concept of what he wants: money will not give him a code of values, if he’s evaded the knowledge of what to value, and it will not provide him with a purpose, if he’s evaded the choice of what to seek. Money will not buy intelligence for the fool, or admiration for the coward, or respect for the incompetent. The man who attempts to purchase the brains of his superiors to serve him, with his money replacing his judgment, ends up by becoming the victim of his inferiors. The men of intelligence desert him, but the cheats and the frauds come flocking to him, drawn by a law which he has not discovered: that no man may be smaller than his money. Is this the reason why you call it evil?"--https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-speech/

Money is the root of all good because it is the product of man's greatest attribute, reason.

 

Kansas?? I thought that they only taught basketball!

 

Do democratic and libertarian nations overthrow the legitimately elected governments of other nations?

Do the governments of democratic and libertarian nations make a practice of military aggression?

Do they pass legislation that attacks their founding documents and its principles?

No, they don't.

 

Has America done any of this? No.

 

They do if voters elect a Hitler, or a Mussolini, or a Stalin, or a Yanukovych; they should if voters elect a Maduro or a Morsi, or a Rouhani. Elections are highly over rated.

 

Not at all. Each subject / issue should be looked at on its own merits / demerits. The fact that you find my disagreement with your value system (money) to be automatically contradictory tells us something of your inherent attitude to debating the subject matter itself (money). I.e., it is not to be contradicted.

And yet another ridiculous nonsensical statement.

You seem to be incredibly infatuated by the subject of money to the exclusion of all else (as far as I can see from this thread anyway).

The impression created is that you have elevated the accumulation of the "buck" to a state of religious communion.

How sad.

How telling.

 

Kind of a bigoted thing to say.

 

That was a joke since University of Kansas basketball is always one of the premier college programs in the country. Not a fan? They
were ranked #1 this year. Didn't mean to appear bigoted. Sorry

 

I see you're new here, so welcome to the forum.

That said, based on this post you offer, you are very much in denial about what your tax dollars have been spent on. You are in denial about the actions of your government over decades.

 

Refresh my memory please. Who did US voters elect to overthrow the Iranian government in '53? Who did we elect to wreak havoc in South America during those times? Who was POTUS when we destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan?

 

Who cares. They all were or are outlaw nations.
Russia, North Korea, Sudan, Iran, Pakistan, and on, and on, and on. All tyrants, theives, and thugs.

 

I suspect that in some cases, the feelings are mutual.

Outlaw governments are a dime a dozen. Biggest of them all is the one in Washington DC.

 

You remind of Ike Clayton howling how rotten and mean the Earpps where. Yeah, I bet they were; but I’d sooner side with Wyatt Earp than Ike Clayton; same goes for America and every other nation on earth.