Is climate change a scam?

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  1. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Most people don't or wouldn't consider that infrastructure such as solar and wind farms use rare earth metals. So where are the ones pushing for 'Green Energy' going to get enough 'RARE' earth minerals from? Enough to power the planet?

    In an interesting video, Dan Penè billionaire explains a financial loophole in the climate change narrative.
     
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    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    Climate change is happening and has always happened. Climate Change in relationship to man-made is bull s$$$.
     
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    There is always change, but the rhetoric spewed out by the globalists and governments, that is the over-exaggerated, hyper-inflated and misused data to push their narrative and agenda. That is the bullshit.
     
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    I, for one, believe the climate has changed -- in some cases with remarkable significance. And, yes, mankind in skyrocketed population numbers has contributed a lot to this over the past hundred years, but the sun, shifting upper-atmosphere jet stream currents, volcanoes (particularly those under the ocean surface), and other factors are quite a bit more important.








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    Have you considered High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (H.A.A.R.P)?

    https://www.facebook.com/doctormoma...extreme-weather-climate-chan/507867596425707/
    It's a video:above:
    HAARP was commissioned around the late 1940s to 1950. A couple of years later, El Ninà and El Ninò weather events were discovered. Were they discovered or created by H.A.A.R.P?
     
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    I truly do not know if HAARP is causing climate change or not. We have, however, been shriveling in drought in Colorado and other parts of the west since 1999.









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    Did you watch the short video? It covers quite a bit on the program and how it is and was used.
     
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    The only natural climate change is the cold and warm periods caused by the sun's contractions and expansions. There have been warmer times in the past and also cooler ones. With the warmer changes comes the poles melting and adding more water to create the rising sea levels. When the planet experiences cooler periods, the water levels recede as there is now more frozen water. Because we've not been around to experience a cold change through to a warm one and back because of our lifespans, we cannot gauge that it is like the seasons. Autumn, Winter, Spring and Summer, but on a grander scale. We only comprehend that that is a catastrophic change because we are only experiencing the end of one cycle to begin another.
    Fossil fuels don't help in terms of pollution more than climate change, if anything it only contributes a very small percentage, not enough to cause alarm, but it does anyway. Or the fact that humans exhale too much CO2,
    another factor that is used as a fearmongering tool. How do we tackle excess CO2? What uses CO2? Plants and plankton. Grow & plant more trees instead of removing them. The third link below is Australia's mini HAARP.

    In terms of actual weather events, I believe a lot of it is done via weather manipulation. HAARP started it through their research programs.

    https://eprints.utas.edu.au/35710/
    https://www.naa.gov.au/learn/learni...-climate/cloud-seeding-operation-coast-sydney
    https://tottnews.com/2018/06/25/australian-companies-manipulating-our-weather/
     
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    I'm not sure what, if anything, can be done about "the fact that humans exhale too much CO2" ... :cynic: . But it is an often overlooked FACT that the dreaded Carbon Dioxide makes up a miniscule 0.04% of the Earth's atmosphere!

    [​IMG] Source: https://www.ucar.edu


    And, here's everything I know about HAARP, and it ain't much: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program









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    The CO2 argument is used by some to create climate alarmism. Have you heard anything with Bill Gates talking about climate change? He has questionable ideas.

    As for HAARP, It's interesting Wikipedia limits the true nature of the facility. But this line, "The High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) was initiated as an ionospheric research program jointly funded by the U.S. Air Force". But you'd think why the Air Force? Both use the skies, and where is the weather located? The sky.
    Bill Gates has a phobia about CO2, have careful listen to his "equation".
     
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    My feelings are there are changes, and it doesn't hurt to clean up around here! but never make anyone suffer
     
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    What I think it is generally among the people that believe it is lack of religion in the traditional sense has made them need to be part of something bigger. So they get into this doomsday crap that's really the part that everyone's arguing about.

    It's a scam mostly by governments so that they can write themselves as a hero in their own narrative.

    So everybody that believes in this cockamami religion all believe that the government is the answer because that's the design of it. It was only created so that people can obtain more power.

    If there was global warming bleeding up to a catastrophe the government would be the last person anyone should ever trust if there's a problem there the cause of it not the solution.

    So really this is people who stand for nothing fall for anything, and a power-hungry authoritarian government manipulating them to get what they want.

    I think scam is too nice of a word. It's duplicitous it's sinister with sinister ends.

    And the ideology is phony.
     
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    If people think their governments are the answer to every problem, they are confused. It's contrary to the latter and they also create the problem, to begin with.
     
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    Bill Gates is a terrible con artist he's one of those people that's of average intelligence, but thinks he's smarter than everyone else and this makes for a very bad con artist.

    The more that nincompoop speaks the better it is for people. He's one of those people that opens his mouth and removes all doubt.

    Tell us Billy how plant-based meat tastes just like beef will totally believe you.
     
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    Well the government sort of plays up this issue as though they are the only ones that can fix it. They rely on confused people to gain power.

    I think the new shrill tone of the climate activists such as the morons gluing themselves to the streets in the UK over insulation, and autistic girls crying on camera about they're still in childhood is the death moan of this religion it's on the defensive because it's cornered.

    I remember when I was a kid when I first started learning about the sort of thing this was in the late '80s. They took us all as a group and set us in the cafeteria while some person in the lab coat probably a pretend scientist talked about how we were all going to be underwater in 2005.

    They're losing their credibility the same way Harold Camping did.

    No Harold camping had his faithful followers I would have believed him every time you said the world was going to end and that's your Greta thunbergs of the world.

    The only problem is that mentally disabled child screeching about her mental disability is not really effective it's the hiss of a raccoon that's trapped.

    It'll never go away completely. But the confused people of the world will be brought into the light as it always happens. And they will break off from the terminally confused leaving the terminally confused as an outlier.
     
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    You got that right.
     
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    Certain there is nothing wrong with wanting to do as little impact as you can to an environment.
     
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    These are the asshats these people are trotting out. Some antitrusted billionaire that tries to convince people that beyond me to just as good as beef?

    He tried to pull that I think he's trying to convince himself.

    The reason why everyone can see that this is absolutely 100% fault is because if it was as good as me cattle ranchers would sell all their cattle and sell all their equipment and not have to buy anymore medical treatments for cattle and all of that stuff and just grow the plants needed to make beyond meat because it's just as good.

    It's kind of like the op video they're selling 50-year mortgages in Florida they don't believe the water is going to rise.
     
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    People such as Gates have tickets on themselves. Why create a plant-based pattie, when you can just eat the plant, go veggo? For the money and control he'll have it, and growing your own sustenance is not the way of the future for us in B.Gs book. Spam made from tofu and other weird ingredients and a side dish of bugs is the way to go, while he and his psycho mates chow down on real meat.
     
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    The point I was making was that everybody knows these meat substitutes aren't as good if they were they wouldn't be entire industries built around producing meat.
     
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    Natural climate change happens because of many factors in addition to solar variation: long-term changes in the earth's orbit and axial tilt; the movement of continental land masses and how they affect atmospheric and ocean circulation; the effects of plants and animals on landscapes and the earth's albedo; volcanoes; ocean circulation cycles; and chaotic effects of internal feedbacks, to name a few. And these are all going on at the same time, with various lags and interactions. So the notion that all possible natural causes of recent climate change have been ruled out, leaving CO2 as the only explanation, is nonscience on stilts.
     
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    "If God had not intended us to eat animals, He wouldn't have made them out of meat."
     
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    Hmm, yes to some, but not all. There is cloud seeding and the use of radio frequencies in the ionosphere that contribute dramatically to many recent weather events.

    https://www.naa.gov.au/learn/learni...-climate/cloud-seeding-operation-coast-sydney
    https://www.facebook.com/doctormoma...extreme-weather-climate-chan/507867596425707/
    https://tottnews.com/2018/06/25/australian-companies-manipulating-our-weather/
     
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    A good 10 min video.



    International Climate Science Coalition Executive Director Tom Harris discusses how he was once a climate alarmist but now sees it as a scam on ‘The Ingraham Angle.’

    FOX News Channel (FNC) is a 24-hour all-encompassing news service delivering breaking news as well as political and business news. The number one network in cable, FNC has been the most-watched television news channel for 18 consecutive years. According to a 2020 Brand Keys Consumer Loyalty Engagement Index report, FOX News is the top brand in the country for morning and evening news coverage. A 2019 Suffolk University poll named FOX News as the most trusted source for television news or commentary, while a 2019 Brand Keys Emotion Engagement Analysis survey found that FOX News was the most trusted cable news brand. A 2017 Gallup/Knight Foundation survey also found that among Americans who could name an objective news source, FOX News was the top-cited outlet. Owned by FOX Corporation, FNC is available in nearly 90 million homes and dominates the cable news landscape, routinely notching the top ten programs in the genre.
     
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    Hmmmm

    More Big Oil Astroturf
     

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